Re: WOBuilder Replacement
Re: WOBuilder Replacement
- Subject: Re: WOBuilder Replacement
- From: Ken Anderson <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 17:31:42 -0400
Galen,
Maybe you've had some bad experiences with open source projects, but
in my view, the WO open source world has been growing and growing for
many many years. Maybe it's because it's built around a commercial
product that has extremely long legs... I don't know, but I don't
think you could keep it down if you tried!
Ken
On Jul 5, 2007, at 5:07 PM, Galen Rhodes wrote:
On Jul 5, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
<* SNIP *>
I doubt that very much. The development to date has been
developers building what _they_ personally need to get their job
done. Most of what is in Entity Modeler and WOComponent Editor
are things that Mike need to do his job more efficiently. He, and
mDimension, were kind enough to donate the results. As long as we
WO developers have unmet needs, development will continue. It may
happen in fits and bursts as our needs dictate, but it will
happen. It will only "stagnate" if all of our needs are met (or
if those with needs are too damn lazy to do anything about them).
And in that case, it will be more of "stable" than "stagnant".
<* SNIP *>
Or make their work on projects that make money more efficient.
Don't forget that. Money does not need to be made directly. And
this is the primary reason, IMHO, why WOComponent Editor is not
WYSIWYG. A developer set out to make something that would be very
efficient to use while requiring less effort than it would save.
I think that Mike has succeeded admirably in this. While it is
not flashy, it is far more productive for me than WOBuilder ever
was and I am FAR happier using it than I was using WOBuilder. Too
many people seem to be more concerned with which font is used or
IDE layout, or cute drag and drop tricks than they are with
actual, real life productivity. OK, enough of that rant...
Your two statements really made my point for me. Your needs are
not the same as someone else's needs. This is probably the #1
problem with the OpenSource community is that they develop software
for themselves and not others. They develop software to meet their
needs and not anyone else's needs. Which I think is probably why
they never make any money off of their labors.
And I personally LOVE your extremely insulting line of "or if those
with needs are too damn lazy to do anything about them." Wow! I
mean "WOW!" Arrogance is always my favorite sin! Remember the old
saying, "Pride goeth before the fall?"
So what you're saying is that I'm a lazy bastard if I don't have
time to develop the tools myself? WOW! That attitude is exactly
what is going to kill WO off for good. I've said it before, you
develop a WYSIWYG replacement for WOBuilder and EOModeler I'll pay
upwards of $500 for them. That's not a small amount of money! But
you know what? I'll save three times that much in a year over
having to use the current WOLips tools!
You may not desire WYSIWYG because it slows _YOU_ down. But there
may be others that truly feel that WYSIWYG enhances _THEIR_
productivity. And your refusal to accept that is EXACTLY what is
wrong with OpenSource projects. The developers adopt a very
arrogant view that "what's good for them is good for everyone."
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