Re: WOBuilder Replacement
Re: WOBuilder Replacement
- Subject: Re: WOBuilder Replacement
- From: Thomas <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 18:50:28 +1000
To expand on what Janine said, I am a visual person, not a textual
person. The three things that I use all the time in WOBuilder are:
- [most important] the ability to visualise how the components in the
page are organised (NOT how it will be rendered), eg are all form
elements in the form.
- ability to visually navigate the business logic. Typing auto-
completion doesn't help me (although WOBuilder does that) because in
my system with thousands of classes, I could never remember what the
methods are called, not even the first letter.
- ability to drag a business method/action from the above onto a
component binding.
I will greatly miss WOBuilder when it is gone, unless there is
something that does these three things. And yes, I am willing to pay
up to US$500 for such a tool. However, it doesn't need to be a
standalone application. I love CSSEdit, and it would be cool to have
WO support built in, but they have almost nothing in common (I don't
care what the page will look like, I just run the application to see
that).
At the moment I use Golive for some display-oriented editing-- you
can set up the HTML database to recognise tags like <wo:if
condition="$whatever"> and you can see the structure of the page,
expanding and collapsing blocks. You can even have predefined
attributes (eg every wo:if has a condition) but there is no business
browser or binding dropper. So a Golive plugin would work for me. I
haven't found a way to do this in Dreamweaver.
On 07/07/2007, at 4:26, Janine Sisk wrote:
The only feature of WOBuilder that I consider important is the one
that helps you to visualize what your component will look like when
it's rendered. WOBuilder always did a lousy job of this,
especially without real data, but some things were just easier to
see, like whether your form really enclosed all the things it was
supposed to. I happen to think that this one piece is something
that some people will find useful regardless of how experienced
they are; some people are just better at visualizing from words
than others.
Personally this is the only piece I think we need. I have no idea
if this could be built as a plug-in to Eclipse or some other
existing package (maybe Coda, like someone else said) or if it
would have to be a standalone app. It wouldn't even have to be an
editor; a viewer where you could preview what your WOLips-produced
component would look like would satisfy me. The icing on the cake
would be if it would allow entry of dummy data for display
purposes, but that would probably require reinventing too much of
WO to be practical.
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