Re: Hibernate
Re: Hibernate
- Subject: Re: Hibernate
- From: Dov Rosenberg <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:06:11 -0400
- Thread-topic: Hibernate
Title: Re: Hibernate
I think the WO community is a very strong one. I have been using WO since 1996. While Hibernate has a big learning curve to it – it has also made a lot of forward progress in comparison to EOF. There are still a lot of things I like about EOF including having a centralized place to look for model information versus storing it in annotations inside the Java files, and the handling of relationships, and key value coding to name a few. But not having native support for databases like DB2, lack of easy to use connection pooling (there are some things that can be done), a richer set of Qualifiers, etc. Project Wonder should be incorporated into EOF/WO ASAP by Apple.
The choice to move away from WO/EOF is a hard one – it is still one of the most well designed frameworks on the market (we have looked at a lot of them over the past few months) - it is hard to believe that it is 12 years old already. The core group of the WO community including Chuck, Mike, and the gang have been a huge help. I think in some respects having a smaller group of users actually makes the group more cohesive and less fragmented. It has been my experience that the average WO/EOF developer is much more technically competent that other groups of developers. Maybe it is my biased opinion.
The last major upgrade to EOF was the daylight savings time update. Before that was probably the move to 5.0 from 4.x. I still love WO. I just wish Apple would give it more respect and realize that the rest of the world would benefit from it.
Dov Rosenberg
On 6/15/07 4:33 PM, "Jeremy Rosenberg" <email@hidden> wrote:
On 15-Jun-07, at 12:09 PM, email@hidden wrote:
1. Is EOF going to support JPA (Java Persistence Architecture) anytime soon?
2. Is direct support for connection pooling going to be implemented?
3. Any word on open source status?
We have been seriously investigating Hibernate. Hibernate has mountains of
documentation (it seems to be very complex in comparison to EOF) and a
pretty vibrant developer community. We are also considering JSF as a
replacement for the WebObjects components. The move would not be easy but in
light of the lack of news I don't think we have a lot of choice from a
business perspective.
Any news is good news.
Dov Rosenberg
One of my colleagues has been using Hibernate because he's part of an open source project that requires him to find a solution outside of WebObjects. He bitches about missing EOF almost daily (and that's after a year of working with it). If there is no technological reason for you to leave WebObjects then it would be a mistake to do so. If your concern is that you feel Hibernate or JSF has a more vibrant community then WebObjects then I think your concern is unfounded. I'd be surprised if any community based initiative has a more committed core than WebObjects and that includes the dozens of developers within Apple projects, like iTunes and the Apple Store (I got that from Wikipedia, not from any specific knowledge gained at WWDC under NDA).
There's lots of news and it's all good news for anyone who hopes to continue working in WebObjects.
A wise man once said that there is nothing in the NDA against saying that you are happy, and I am very happy. :)
Jeremy
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Systems Consultant
Academic Computing Services
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, BC, Canada V5A 1S6
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