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Java Client : who is using it ?
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Java Client : who is using it ?


  • Subject: Java Client : who is using it ?
  • From: Philippe Rabier <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 17:00:22 +0200

Hi,

I changed the subject of the mail because your mail content was no more appropriate ;-)

I completely agree with your mail. In the WO FF session of the last WWDC, I explained that the lack of support of Java Client is a very bad thing for some developpers because we are working on very big projects. 

For my part, we have worked on several applications with Java Client for a very well known bank. And there is a big project in France involving 50 universities. There is a web site (http://www.cocktail.org) only in french. The home page lists a part of applications developed with Java Client and there are a lot ... And there is a developer in this team who makes incredible stuff with Java Client.

The Apple WO team needs to know how Java Client is used. So the best thing is to send an email to Pierre Frisch, the manager of WO team with a description of the project. And if you are allowed to speak publicly about your project, please, send it to the list too. 

Philippe Rabier

On 22 juin 07, at 21:10, email@hidden wrote:

Subject: Re: Java Client refuses to use Client-Side classes once

deployed

To: Robert Walker <email@hidden>

Cc: Development WebObjects <email@hidden>

Message-ID: <email@hidden">email@hidden>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed


Hi all,



There seems to be a lack of distinction in different ways to use WO  

JavaClients. It seems that most people see this being done as either  

the direct or non-direct approaches described by Apple. BUT, there is  

another approach that does not utilize large portions of WO's  

JavaClient support code, where most trouble comes from.


This approach comes down to using client side EOF only for data  

persistence, within any kind of a Java app. There is no D2JC auto- 

generated GUI, rule systems, translations from nib to Swing etc. All  

the places where WO's JavaClient capabilities become difficult and  

error prone.


I feel it is important to point this out, as the whole "dropping of  

WO Java Client" by either Apple or users of it, can imply different  

things:


1. Dropping direct-to stuff

2. Dropping Nib to Swing

3. Dropping ALL of the JavaClient code including data distribution  

classes


The first two causes most of the trouble (IMHO), but dropping it does  

not have to imply dropping the third. I also think that part of the  

JC code base is relatively small, not difficult to maintain, and yet  

opens a door for WO to be used in a not very popular, but powerful way.


I know that I am speaking for a very small percentage of a very small  

community, but I hope Apple has mercy on us there.


Two cents,

Flor


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