Re: Norman Richards on WebObjects
Re: Norman Richards on WebObjects
- Subject: Re: Norman Richards on WebObjects
- From: Norman Richards <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:26:48 -0500
I saw a thread on theserverside.com on failed Java projects,
referring to some comments by Norman Richards - co-author of books
on XDoclet and JBOSS (http://members.capmac.org/~orb/blog.cgi/tech/
java/ Java_revisionism_an.html) . In his comments he makes a
positive remark about WebObjects, so I thought I'd see what else
he's said about it, and found this from last year:
http://members.capmac.org/~orb/blog.cgi/tech/Open_source_WebObje.html
In the 5 years since I quit using WebSphere, I've seen nothing yet
in the Java world that made me think that there was a better
solution than WebObjects. It's nice to have someone as dyed-in-the-
wool as Richards validate my decisions :-)
Thanks for the kind words. It is quite sad it has taken as long as
it has for WebObjects-like things to make their way into the
mainstream Java world. JavaServer Faces and Tapestry have brought
component-based web development into Java, but neither of them give a
very completely solution by themselves. Sun has done some
interesting work with NetBeans (by way of Java Studio Creator) to try
and give something that competitive to WO in terms of overall
experience. I'm not saying that it is any better than WebObjects,
but I think the average WO developer would feel relatively comfortable.
I'm currently working on an application framework called Seam. The
goal is not to clone WebObjects, but I am definitely trying to make
sure we learn as much as we can from WebObjects. The development
model is extremely simple and would be very familiar to a WO
developer. Tooling is weak, but we'll have something pretty nice
with the Exadel/RedHat tools. I think WebObjects developers would be
very happy with it.
My point isn't to advertise other frameworks but to say that
WebObjects ideas really are being expressed in mainstream Java
frameworks. It's an exciting time. It's only a shame we're coming
to the party 10 years late... :)
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