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Re: Project architecture


  • Subject: Re: Project architecture
  • From: Guido Neitzer <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:27:46 -0600

Hi,

Perhaps you are mis-interpreting something in WebObjects: a WOComponent might be a page. Or might be a snippet of a page. Or might be a wrapper around something. Or might be something completely different. But it has nothing to do with the actual URL to view exactly one page.

We have designers here that actually use WebObjects Builder to build components for websites, but that is a more special case. Normally our workflow is to get working HTML mockups for every page in the application and a programmer transfers that to the actual components and the application. As a page is normally build by a couple of components (like wrapper, header, navigation, content, special content, ads, footer, legal stuff, search box ...) it is not practical to have a designer working on the components itself.

For bookmarkable URLs you need to use DirectActions, which means you don't have a session - be careful because lots of the dynamic elements create sessions when they are used on a page. Perhaps get a book, that explains the use of DirectActions and how to transfer a component action based app to a stateless one [1].

And the rest is not really "project organization", it is more on how you build the pages itself. Use direct actions where possible (where you don't have a state like a logged in user or so), perhaps use direct actions even if you have a logged in user, but use a session when he logs in to maintain the state. Build code that handles users coming back to one of those direct action links with an expired or no session. Put the session id in a cookie to have clean direct action URLs without the wosid parameter.

cug

[1] old, but still a good book to read in my opinion, if you can transfer to the modern tools:

<http://www.amazon.com/WebObjects-Web-Application-Construction-Kit/dp/ 0672320746>


On 29.03.2007, at 11:03, Webobjects Developer wrote:

I'm a relative newcomer to WebObjects, but I've built a few
applications and feel like I have a good handle on the technology. I'm
thinking about using WebObjects for my next online project.

My question is about project architecture. I envision the following
major components:

- The backend database
- The administrative web site
- The [non-secure] user web site
- The [secure] store web site

My goals are to:

- Hire a non-technical web designer for the user web site and store web site
- Use off the shelf tools like Dreamweaver or Go Live for web design
- Include some dynamic content in user web site
- Provide bookmarkable, non-cryptic links to user web site


For instance, it seems unreasonable for my web designers to deal with
the WO component .html or .wod files of the WO project.

Also, using WO components for the user web site pages makes it harder
to provide bookmarkable links for the pages on the user web site that
have dynamic content.

But if not WO components for the pages, then what?

What are the suggested WebObjects techniques for organizing a project
to meet the goals above?
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