Re: Apple's Support of WebObjects
Re: Apple's Support of WebObjects
- Subject: Re: Apple's Support of WebObjects
- From: Andrew Satori <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 09:30:22 -0400
Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is this:
The Java based WO Tools are dead (EOModeler, WOBuilder), but the
Xcode based WO Tools will continue to exist and get enhancements as
the pertain to Xcode in general (XCDataModeler, JAM/ANT based project
support in Xcode).
Based upon that I would think that EOModeler is dead, and that it's
replacement is Eclipse/WOLipse. Oddly enough, though I use WO, my
use of EOModeler is very limited as most of my business logic and
data logic already exists in Java classes, and rather than make it
confusing to support 3 years down the road, I add to that library
rather than add the Modeler layer, and that XCDataModeler doesn't do
Java, so it directly reading and and writing to the JDBC Data sources
is probably toast. WOBuilder, well it's definately toast, but that's
not a huge loss. In it's current form it has aged such that much of
it's functionality is useful only for roughing in a page. The layout
and hand coding of the HTML to get the JavaScript, CSS and art just
right are going to be done in another tool, not WOBuilder.
So yeah, it would be great to have a DreamWeaver that did WOBuilder
functions, it's just not going to happen at this point, unless
someone feels there is a market. At which point, someone might
invest the year it would take to create a WOCoda (Coda like app for
WO Pages). It's unlikely that someone is going to be Apple (though
they did do Dashcode, which I would have categorically said they
would not do as well).
Andy
On May 7, 2007, at 7:34 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
Hi!
I know people who are developing on Windows on 5.3. You just have
to do something based on the FreeBSD and Linux installations
description (on the WikiBook), replacing the libs, etc, and it
works. With Eclipse and WOLips, of course. You are no different
then on the Mac, because "our" tools are deprecated and will
eventually stop working. So we are all in the same boat. The only
diference is that you don't have a nice little installer, you have
to do it by hand. Besides that, it works.
Yours
Miguel Arroz
On 2007/05/07, at 07:36, Cheong Hee (Datasonic) wrote:
I know that Apple had decided last year to deprecate/stop
development
of Web Objects.
To add on, I would think that the support for MS Windows
development and deployment is deprecated. For Windows/WO
developer like me, who wish to use Windows as prime development
platform, and build platform-independent applications, it is
definitely not a good thing. Now we are forced to drop Windows
development (Ok, not so critical) and also to drop any Windows
deployment (that is quite bad indeed, from user perspective, maybe
what Apple likes to see..). OK, we still have choices to deploy
to other platform e.g. Linux, Solaris...; )
I really like WebObjects, it's design makes it the most powerful
development package, as well as the Apple design tools allow for
fast
application design.
The same reason why I still hook on to this tool after years
(after all others have dropped and turn to others), even in a
place where WO developer resource is so scarce...and distinct : )
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