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  • Subject: Back to Tiger YEEEEEHAWWW!!
  • From: Ken Foust <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:58:15 -0700

Well I got rid of the giant cluster F leopard. reloaded clean disk build of Tiger>Xcode>WO>openbase10
everything works great. I am just amazed that you people screw around with all this other stuff.
Matter of fact I am so amazed that perhaps you could list some websites working on the net that were developed using Eclipse/WOlips.


I think this whole group should petition Apple to rewrite WO uptodate and just move on.
I guess I may be stuck with Tiger but after screwing with everything else I am happy to be here.
I couldn't even get a freaking database to run on leopard. After playing with rails I had so much brain damage I drank half of Sonoma's daily output.


Hopefully if I have to move someone will have built a development environment that works just like the one apple tossed under the bus.

Good luck to you all with what you are doing and I appreciate your letting me come here and beg for help but at least I can see something again!!!

Leopard = Trinket Vendor

reminds me of Microsoft - I want to be everything to all and nothing works!!

Thank - Ken


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Eclipse Version to Download (Johan Henselmans)
   2. generate sql from entity modeler in Eclipse (Theodore Petrosky)
   3. Re: generate sql from entity modeler in Eclipse (Mike Schrag)
   4. missing install step? (Randy Wigginton)
   5. Re: missing install step? (David LeBer)
   6. Re: missing install step? (Randy Wigginton)
   7. Re: missing install step? (Pascal Robert)
   8. Re: Eclipse Version to Download (Art Isbell)
   9. Eclipse 3.3.2 (Les Vogel)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:36:17 +0100
From: Johan Henselmans <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Eclipse Version to Download
To: WebObjects-Dev List <email@hidden>
Message-ID: <email@hidden>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes


On 17 nov 2007, at 11:35, Ken Ishimoto wrote:

Hi,

I am using Leo 10.5.1 with Eclipse 3.3.1.1 last WOLips nightly, no
crash here to.

Thanks for the nice Command-Shift-T , I didn't know that.

Ken


Perhaps the confusion is crated by the version number on the app versus the version number used inside Eclipse?

I downloaded the Java version 3.3.1.1. (eclipse-java-europa-fall2-
macosx-carbon.tar.gz) from the official download location.

According to the info in the Finder that is 3.3

The About Eclipse Platform menu/window states:

Eclipse Platform

Version: 3.3.1.1
Build id: M20071023-1652

However if you look at the

Help->Software Updates->Manage Configuration

you will find under Eclipse Platform that the Eclipse PLatform is
Eclipse Plaform 3.3.2.R33x_v20071022_[Lots of characters]

So which version are we talking about?  I had a previous version (I
thought was the same) that had a disabled Eclipse Plaform 3.3.1 etc
under  Help->Software Updates->Manage Configuration.

Perhaps that is causing the confusion, and the 'My Eclipse runs better
than your Eclipse" confusion.


On 2007/11/17, at 2:46, Art Isbell wrote:

On Nov 16, 2007, at 3:37 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote:

Can you try "Command-Shift-R" and select something from there and
hit return?


	I've tried both Command-Shift-R and Command-Shift-T, entered text
in both, selected a hit using either the mouse or arrow keys, and
pressed Return.  Nothing has crashed Eclipse.

However, as complex as Eclipse is, maybe my loaded plugins differs
from yours making my configuration less likely to crash (pure guess).


Aloha,
Art

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:01:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Theodore Petrosky <email@hidden>
Subject: generate sql from entity modeler in Eclipse
To: email@hidden
Message-ID: <email@hidden>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

I have a little problem (looks like a bug)

I created a rather simple Entity with only two
columns.. when I press "Generate SQL" the "NOT NULL"
constraint has no space before it.... I don't know if
this is an old issue or a new one.


CREATE TABLE MainTable ("personname" textNOT NULL, "theoid" int4NOT NULL);

Ted


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:49:57 -0500
From: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: generate sql from entity modeler in Eclipse
To: WebObjects-Dev List <email@hidden>
Message-ID: <email@hidden>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

This is WO 5.4 bug rather than an Entity Modeler bug, though I've just
now committed a workaround for it for Entity Modeler that will
reinsert spaces.  It will be in the next nightly.

ms

On Nov 18, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Theodore Petrosky wrote:

I have a little problem (looks like a bug)

I created a rather simple Entity with only two
columns.. when I press "Generate SQL" the "NOT NULL"
constraint has no space before it.... I don't know if
this is an old issue or a new one.


CREATE TABLE MainTable ("personname" textNOT NULL, "theoid" int4NOT NULL);

Ted



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:52:16 -0800
From: Randy Wigginton <email@hidden>
Subject: missing install step?
To: email@hidden
Message-ID: <email@hidden>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Apologies if this is in an FAQ somewhere, but I've been unable to find
it.  I recently changed jobs so have not been on the list for several
months.

I installed Leopard, XCode 3.0 and (I think) WebObjects 5.4.  After
the install, launch xcode, new project... and there are no webobjects
project types available.  Additionally, under /Developer/Examples/
JavaWebObjects there are no .xcodeproj files except in the frameworks.

Is webobjects somehow deprecated, or did I miss an install step
somewhere?
thanks!



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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:03:41 -0500
From: David LeBer <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: missing install step?
To: Randy Wigginton <email@hidden>
Cc: email@hidden
Message-ID: <email@hidden>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes


On 18-Nov-07, at 11:52 AM, Randy Wigginton wrote:

Apologies if this is in an FAQ somewhere, but I've been unable to
find it.  I recently changed jobs so have not been on the list for
several months.

I installed Leopard, XCode 3.0 and (I think) WebObjects 5.4.  After
the install, launch xcode, new project... and there are no
webobjects project types available.  Additionally, under /Developer/
Examples/JavaWebObjects there are no .xcodeproj files except in the
frameworks.

Is webobjects somehow deprecated, or did I miss an install step
somewhere?
thanks!

It is a FAQ.

WebObjects isn't deprecated, it is alive and well and as you've
noticed WebObjects 5.4 was released with Leopard.

The Xcode based tool set *has* been deprecated however. The
recommended replacement is the Eclipse IDE with the WOLips plugin.

<http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Home>
<http://wocommunity.org/getting_started_with_webobjects.html>

;david

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:34:20 -0800
From: Randy Wigginton <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: missing install step?
To: David LeBer <email@hidden>
Cc: email@hidden
Message-ID: <email@hidden>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Thank you.  I am surprised that release notes for xcode 3.0 CLAIM to
install the webobjects development tools.  That's a flat out lie, and
misled me into looking all over for the tools.  One would expect that
removal of tools would bear mentioning in a release note.

 From the "About xcode tools" doc:
"WebObjects - Installs WebObjects development tools, examples, and
documentation. Note:
WebObjects is not relocatable and is installed into /Developer on the
boot volume."

So far I still have not found it in an FAQ anywhere, but at the top of
"Introduction to webobjects" on Apple's site, there is an "important"
note that the tools are being removed.

On Nov 18, 2007, at 9:03 AM, David LeBer wrote:

On 18-Nov-07, at 11:52 AM, Randy Wigginton wrote:

Apologies if this is in an FAQ somewhere, but I've been unable to
find it.  I recently changed jobs so have not been on the list for
several months.

I installed Leopard, XCode 3.0 and (I think) WebObjects 5.4.  After
the install, launch xcode, new project... and there are no
webobjects project types available.  Additionally, under /Developer/
Examples/JavaWebObjects there are no .xcodeproj files except in the
frameworks.

Is webobjects somehow deprecated, or did I miss an install step
somewhere?
thanks!

It is a FAQ.

WebObjects isn't deprecated, it is alive and well and as you've
noticed WebObjects 5.4 was released with Leopard.

The Xcode based tool set *has* been deprecated however. The
recommended replacement is the Eclipse IDE with the WOLips plugin.

<http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Home>
<http://wocommunity.org/getting_started_with_webobjects.html>

;david

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:44:05 -0500
From: Pascal Robert <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: missing install step?
To: Randy Wigginton <email@hidden>
Cc: WebObjects Dev <email@hidden>
Message-ID: <email@hidden>
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Le 07-11-18 à 12:34, Randy Wigginton a écrit :

Thank you.  I am surprised that release notes for xcode 3.0 CLAIM
to install the webobjects development tools.  That's a flat out
lie, and misled me into looking all over for the tools.  One would
expect that removal of tools would bear mentioning in a release note.

From the "About xcode tools" doc:
"WebObjects - Installs WebObjects development tools, examples, and
documentation. Note:

It's almost true. They do install examples (but they are broken, instead of linking to the WO frameworks, they are linking to the WO source projects...) and documentation. It will also install the frameworks, Monitor, wotaskd and the WO HTTP adaptator, but it will not install WOLips or the old tools.

WebObjects is not relocatable and is installed into /Developer on
the boot volume."

So far I still have not found it in an FAQ anywhere, but at the top
of "Introduction to webobjects" on Apple's site, there is an
"important" note that the tools are being removed.

On Nov 18, 2007, at 9:03 AM, David LeBer wrote:

On 18-Nov-07, at 11:52 AM, Randy Wigginton wrote:

Apologies if this is in an FAQ somewhere, but I've been unable to
find it.  I recently changed jobs so have not been on the list
for several months.

I installed Leopard, XCode 3.0 and (I think) WebObjects 5.4.
After the install, launch xcode, new project... and there are no
webobjects project types available.  Additionally, under /
Developer/Examples/JavaWebObjects there are no .xcodeproj files
except in the frameworks.

Is webobjects somehow deprecated, or did I miss an install step
somewhere?
thanks!

It is a FAQ.

WebObjects isn't deprecated, it is alive and well and as you've
noticed WebObjects 5.4 was released with Leopard.

The Xcode based tool set *has* been deprecated however. The
recommended replacement is the Eclipse IDE with the WOLips plugin.

<http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Home>
<http://wocommunity.org/getting_started_with_webobjects.html>

;david


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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:19:30 -1000
From: Art Isbell <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Eclipse Version to Download
To: WebObjects-Dev List <email@hidden>
Message-ID: <email@hidden>
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On Nov 18, 2007, at 1:36 AM, Johan Henselmans wrote:

I downloaded the Java version 3.3.1.1. (eclipse-java-europa-fall2-
macosx-carbon.tar.gz) from the official download location.

Me, too.

According to the info in the Finder that is 3.3

Yep.

The About Eclipse Platform menu/window states:

Eclipse Platform

Version: 3.3.1.1
Build id: M20071023-1652

Same here.

However if you look at the

Help->Software Updates->Manage Configuration

you will find under Eclipse Platform that the Eclipse PLatform is
Eclipse Plaform 3.3.2.R33x_v20071022_[Lots of characters]

That's what I see. Odd that the Platform version starts with 3.3.2 rather than 3.3.1.1.

So which version are we talking about?

It seems that the Eclipse version that I have is identical to the one that you have. Of course, we likely have a different set of plugins. Is yours crashing?

Aloha,
Art



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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:24:56 -1000
From: "Les Vogel" <email@hidden>
Subject: Eclipse 3.3.2
To: "WebObjects Dev" <email@hidden>
Message-ID:
	<email@hidden>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

In looking at the Eclipse Time line
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/timeline/ it appears that 3.3.2 isn't
scheduled until February 18, 2008. I think all the discussion has been a
bit premature.


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