Re: Google App Engine
Re: Google App Engine
- Subject: Re: Google App Engine
- From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 20:04:21 -0700
On Apr 8, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Robert Walker wrote:
I don't know if it would be possible to integrate EOF and such a
data store, as EOF is very tight to the relational model, without
doing some heavy trickery
Speaking of that, why do we continue the "Cargo Cult" of the
relational database? Isn't it about time to move past them, and
begin moving to persistent storage that makes sense in the modern
age of objects?
That's all I'll say on the subject. I'm not trying to start a long
discussion that will all end in tears.
I looked into Object Databases a while back, but walked away due to
cost, performance and other concerns. That was a while ago, quite a
while.
Things like this might be interesting:
http://www.bluestream.com/products/streamstore20
Chuck
On Apr 8, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
Hi!
Of course I was! :)
I don't know if it would be possible to integrate EOF and such a
data store, as EOF is very tight to the relational model, without
doing some heavy trickery (ie, bugs, instability, limitations,
etc). And there's also the problem of not being able to access it
outside of the python sandbox. But being able to do queries against
the google infrastructure is very very interesting, specially
considering my permanent performance concerns with traditional DBs...
Interesting note, they also use OL to handle concurrency. I hope
their implementation actually works! :)
Yours
Miguel Arroz
On 2008/04/08, at 16:54, Mike Schrag wrote:
..... but then i think you were only semi-serious ;)
On Apr 8, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
I actually looked at this ... I'm not sure if you can access the
datastore outside of the python API's running in the cluster.
Amazon's is a possibility also, but the query capability is very
limited, and joins would have to be implemented inside the
adaptor. Google's at least appears to expose a SQL-like API,
though I don't know how extensive it is.
ms
On Apr 8, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
Hi!
FYI: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/whatisgoogleappengine.html
I bet Mike can't write an adaptor for the Datastore in a
weekend... ;)
Yours
Miguel Arroz
Miguel Arroz
http://www.terminalapp.net
http://www.ipragma.com
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