Re: Staying with WebObjects
Re: Staying with WebObjects
- Subject: Re: Staying with WebObjects
- From: "Joe Little" <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:07:26 -0700
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Alexander Spohr <email@hidden> wrote:
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> Am 11.04.2008 um 22:47 schrieb David Avendasora:
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> >
> > On Apr 11, 2008, at 4:06 PM, Simon McLean wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I think the real bug-bear for people struggling to get their companies
> to commit to webobjects isn't the fact that it's not open source - i think
> it's the fact that you have to buy a mac to get your hands on the
> frameworks.
> > >
> >
> > No problem. Just write up the purchase order for a copy of the WO 5.4
> frameworks wrapped in super-sexy MacBookPro packaging. Just $4,000. Or you
> can go for the more economical Mac mini packaging. Just $599. (that's $200
> off the $799 list-price for 5.2) and you get a free computer to (dual)boot.
> >
>
>
> Situation in the Real World:
>
> - No software-package, you have to buy a Mac instead that people don't
> want.
You can get to the DMG directly, and read it from any client if dd is
available to extract the pax (akin to tar)
> - No support to transfer that to Win/Linux
> - No clear licensing for developers using Win/Linux
> - If you think the license model is „one Mac OS X license per developer
> seat" then you still have an OS DVD that you can not use to install WO on
> Win/Linux.
>
>
> The only possible _manager acceptable_ solutions (from my experience) could
> be:
>
> 1. put the jars/frameworks in a package, that you can extract on any
> plattform (zip/gzip/rar).
available -- read above.
> 2. clear up the license to make WO either a free download or charge a fee
> per dev-seat.
Its free to DL and use, but I agree that I'd love for it to be fully
DLable from the web, front and center, directly in a .tgz, pkg, or
otherwise. Also I agree that Apple hedges too much in the license.
There is too much of a wink-wink each year at WWDC, simply passing the
buck to the customer to decide with their lawyer wether they are in
the clear. The simple answer is own one copy of OSX/Mac was sufficient
to be legal.
>
> A goodie would be to add Apache-adaptors compilable on Win/Linux.
These have been available for quite some time in project wonder (for
Apache 1.x/2.0/2.2 on all makes)
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> The problem with supporting only Mac OS X remains a problem though.
>
> atze
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