Re: A little bit of Ajax in a 5.3 app?
Re: A little bit of Ajax in a 5.3 app?
- Subject: Re: A little bit of Ajax in a 5.3 app?
- From: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:33:38 -0500
OK Mike, I've now spent 1/2 hour looking for documentation on how you added the "key" to your .java file in your video from the wod editor. I'm a newbie to Eclipse and for the life of me I can't find a command or keyboard shortcut that does that.
This question goes back to the thread about devtools. I have always tinkered with WO because it was so easy for a non-programmer like me. I am trying to learn WOLips and Eclipse. One way is by going step by step through the old Apple Docs and trying to repeat functionality in Eclipse. The autocompletion nearly replaces the ability to quickly bind objects to EO attributes. But my question above and your use of something that's so basic and also so undocumented (unless I am completely missing something) is probably one reason that non-programmers are attempting to hold on to the old tools.
You experienced WO/Java programmers should take it easy on the rest of us hobbyists (as we were called). And instead of lambasting us and telling us to "Just switch already," help us. I really like WO because I have been able to quickly build little databased web apps. I tried using Rails, and found that to be a disaster. The arrogant folks at 37Signals assumes that everyone who wants to make dynamic websites must be experienced programmers.
Unfortunately, since I upgraded to Leopard, I had no choice but to learn to use WOLips. But what so many of you "real programmers" take for granted, I haven't a clue. Lately, I have seen answers to questions like, "just look at the Javadocs" with no further explanation among the many very helpful posts. That sort of "What an idiot you must be when the answer is right in front of you" is completely ignorant of the fact that not everyone knows what to do with the documentation and that some of us, especially me, learn more by example, than by reading the JavaDocs.
Mike's video is clearly an example that using Eclipse/WOLips is fast, even faster than the old tools and for the first time I now see how I can use Ajax in my WebApp. What a great example. More please. (this might go through twice -- I sent this once and didn't see it on the list, so apologies if you get two)
Add Key / Add Action is a brand new feature that just went into WOLips on Sunday (brazenly stolen from WOB, I might add -- I have no pride here). I actually DID post on the woproject-dev list about this on Sunday, but it appears that google does a terrible job at indexing the woproject-dev mailing list I wrote the original email about this and I _still_ can't manage to find it in google results. I wonder if there's something about the mailing list web pages that causing it to not be indexed by Google properly (for reference: http://www.objectstyle.org/woproject/lists/woproject-dev/current/0226.html , though without images, which is sort of lame). I'm really not sure if I can even send the original email to the wo list because I think it will get blocked for its size. I'll try to forward it after this post and we'll see what we shall see. [edit: nevermind ... I'm just going to setup a wolips blog -- http://wolips.blogspot.com ] The short version of the story is that you can either Edit=>Refactor=>Add Key / Add Action or you can (as I did in the video) cmd-click on a broken binding. Again, this only exists in the latest nightly builds. The nightly builds, however, will become the new the new stable build as soon as Eclipse 3.3.2 is declared final (which should be by the end of this month).
ms
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