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Re: WebObjects Nightly Builds and WOLips addition
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Re: WebObjects Nightly Builds and WOLips addition


  • Subject: Re: WebObjects Nightly Builds and WOLips addition
  • From: Andrus Adamchik <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:30:18 +0300

In the sake of a balanced view you may also read this:

  http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2007/11/maven-wont-get-fooled-again.html

Sort of matches my experience - the stated benefits of Maven are too big to resist the switch, but get ready for some major pain.

Andrus



On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
Just some random thoughts...

On 11/06/2008, at 4:16 PM, Ricardo Parada wrote:

I know very little about maven. Why would one want to build apps this way

Lots of reasons. Some WO(Lips) particulars
- classpath works ;-) It's all defined once.
- not dependent on installed environment (e.g., spurious wobuild.properties, custom ant stuff)
- don't need to switch installed environments


More seriously, someone else may be able to summarise its benefits more succinctly. The best thing to do as an into (I think) is to read up on maven to see if you'd like to use it:
- http://maven.apache.org/
- http://maven.apache.org/guides/getting-started/index.html


The second one listed above will run you through the overall concepts and is quite helpful in introducing you to the various aspects of maven. Pay particular attention to the links from that page (e.g., to the maven model - which describes the various xml elements and what they do).

Installing maven is simple. e.g., (for mac)
# install macports if not present already (macports.org)
$ sudo port -d selfupdate
$ sudo port install maven2

and use this project structure?

The default project structure (as shown) is the recommended one. It's the standard maven layout. The reasons for this is so that, from project to project, any developer knows where to find things, where to put things - whether familiar with WO or otherwise and also Maven's build system does stuff by default (without need for further configuration) with these files/resources when compiling/packaging/ installing/testing etc.


The mantra is standard conventions over configuration. [1]

You can configure things (which I've done for transitioning) to work with your current bunny layout. e.g., if you're just wanting to kick the tyres so to speak. I'll write up how to do this on the wiki over the next day or so. It's pretty simple.

It's helpful to read [2] first to get the idea of things, but [3] shows you how to configure things for your build.

Is it so that it builds your projects and apps with the right version of WO and other jars?

It will build it with what you define, sure.

The deployed app will then use / include the version specified during the build? Is that what this is for?

It will do that too. But this is not specifically what it's for as you can do that already with ant or any other build system.


[1] http://maven.apache.org/benefits-of-using-maven.html
[2] http://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-pom.html
[3] http://maven.apache.org/ref/2.0.8/maven-model/maven.html

with regards,
--

Lachlan Deck
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