Re: Better start with Wonder than WO
Re: Better start with Wonder than WO
- Subject: Re: Better start with Wonder than WO
- From: David LeBer <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:34:13 -0400
On 20-Mar-08, at 4:27 PM, Gustavo Pizano wrote:
:( now im lost.
GUS
PS: what would be the reason for using wonder?
Short list?:
Ajax.framework - Ajax the WebObjects way
ERXGenericRecord - will* methods plus much much more
Auto EOEditingContext locking
ERMigrations - Easy database schema change managment
ERPrototypes - Consistent set of Prototypes for many databases
Validity - Model based validation
ERDirectToWeb - Lots of extra stuff for D2W applications
ERTaggable - Tagging mixin for WebObjects apps
ERAttachment - Attachment mixin for WebObjects apps
ERJavaMail - WO wrapper around Javamail
Any number of things in ERXExtensions
On Mar 20, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Mr. Pierre Frisch wrote:
I would totally disagree with that. Wonder introduce another layer
of complexity and patching on top of WO. I think you should only
use Wonder if you have a good reason for it.
Pierre
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On Mar 20, 2008, at 11:56, David LeBer wrote:
On 20-Mar-08, at 2:45 PM, Gustavo Pizano wrote:
aha ok...
This is what I decided something what I posted in a previous
thread. I will develop my Software Engineering class final
project in parallel with WO, so at the end I will show the
teacher what are the differences between EO, Hibernate and WO. SO
ok I will start doing it in wonder. SO be prepare for a lot of
questions I already have in my mind, hehe, but of course I will
make some tutorial first, I will watch again the screen-cast :P.
if for some reason I see I can't achive the goal I will go to
normal WO development.. hopefully i will not do that.
well what do you think?
Building on top of Wonder needn't impact your development at all
unless you want it to.
You will benefit without even knowing it.
However, there is the danger that you could get so caught up
investigating all of the cool toys in Wonder that you didn't get
any real work done. :-) But then that's not Wonder's fault now is
it.
On Mar 20, 2008, at 1:26 PM, David LeBer wrote:
On 20-Mar-08, at 2:15 PM, Gustavo Pizano wrote:
Im just "wondering" what's better for me, you know guys im
really newbie. To keep learning concepts of WO or learn them
and develop in Wonder?
For a new WO developer, I think there are amazing benefits for
starting with Wonder.
Is wonder big? Yes.
Is it hard to fully understand? Definitely.
Do you need to understand all of it to benefit from it?
Absolutely not.
If you:
1. Use the WOLips WOnder Application template
2. Generate your EOs with the WonderEntity.java/
_WonderEntity.java templates
3. Always user ERXEC.newEditingContext() to obtain a new
EOEditingContext
You will benefit from a ton of bug fixes and helpful code that
fix things that are hard to fix otherwise without having to
change much else.
Let the debate commence :-)
;david
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