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Re: Dr. Miguel 'Optimistic Locking' Arroz [was Re: WebObjects stress Testing tool?]
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  • Subject: Re: Dr. Miguel 'Optimistic Locking' Arroz [was Re: WebObjects stress Testing tool?]
  • From: Guido Neitzer <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:08:10 -0800

I saw some serious issues with MySQL and migrations lately, but haven't checked where the actual reason might be. It looked like you can't create table, then call existingTableNamed as this will return null. Also it actually created tables and didn't roll back when the migration failed. I don't know whether something was set up incorrectly, as I'm personally not using MySQL for reasons that might not be valid anymore. I also found it way more natural to use and it is better supported by the combination WebObjects / Wonder (wonder why ... :-) ).

One more reason which always kept me away from MySquirrel: It let me down a couple times with screwed up data in the 3.x and 4.x times. Don't know what happened back then (long ago), but the safety wasn't there ... might have also been my inability to use it correctly. Interesting enough I never had these issues with PG.

Guido

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On 3. Dec. 2009, at 15:09 , Mike Schrag wrote:

> with MySQL 5, I don't think there's any reason to believe it's less of a database ... in particular, mysql's has an actual clustering implementation whereas pg has a failure pile in a sadness bowl.
>
> http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/MySQL_vs_PostgreSQL
>
> this seems to be a reasonably up-to-date comparison
>
> ms
>
> On Dec 3, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>
>> Miguel, anyone, please enlighten me as to what specifically is wrong with using MySQL InnoDB as a database for WO because I have not seen any problem, but then I have not used PostgreSQL or FrontBase either - so maybe I don't see a problem that I should be concerned about.
>>
>> -Kieran
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> On 2009/12/03, at 22:32, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> I create new OSCs for most background tasks. The one thing is that I dispose() on it at the end of the task .... and the dispose() is only useful if you use ERXJDBCAdaptor is used since the regular WO 5.3 jdbc adaptor opens two connections for every OSC and leaves the stupid things open forever. ERXJDBCAdaptor only opens one db connection and releases it when u call dispose() IIRC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dude! <http://terminalapp.net/webobjects-postgresql-and-db-growing-and-growing/> ;)
>>>>
>>>> Dude!  www.mysql.com - innodb (or cluster NDB) .... doesn't "grow and grow"   (and it is not a "toy", no matter what Chuck says ;-)  )
>>>
>>> No, it's a disaster! ;)
>>>
>>> The "growing" is a side effect of leaving the transaction opening that happens on PostgreSQL due to its architecture, but the point is the same, do what I say there to avoid the dumb connection. :)
>>>
>>> Yours
>>>
>>> Miguel Arroz
>>>
>>
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