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Re: All In One Installer broken
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Re: All In One Installer broken


  • Subject: Re: All In One Installer broken
  • From: Kieran Kelleher <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:10:29 -0500

Don,

This is great news ........ I had forgotten about your installers. The wiki is easily updatable if you get an account. The only reason accounts are needed is to stop autobots/spammers/etc.

Don, just go here and create an account and make a page named Dons Installers and attach all your installers to that and I can link to them from appropriate pages.

http://issues.objectstyle.org/jira/

If you want help with these you could set up a googlecode svn repo and let a few of us on there, or if Wonder folks believed that these are valuabel, then they might give you access to maintain these in the Wonder/Utilities space, and Mike S might, if he felt the urge, add them to the Hudson build server so that the latest installers for various platforms were readily available.

-Kieran


On Dec 6, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Don Lindsay wrote:

I have no problems with it being hosted at object style. As long as there is a way for me to update it when it is updated, be it procedural by sending it to someone or uploading to a specific location.

I also have deployment installers for all Linux, and windows versions. This sets up deployment on the aforementioned Operating Systems (OS X excluded as it has always supported deployment). I also have one that installs deployment in tomcat 5.5

Thanks

Don
On Dec 6, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Tim Worman wrote:

I'd be willing to test this on OSX. I can try it when I'm at work tomorrow.

Is there any chance it could be hosted at objectstyle? The only reason I ask is that I think url's can matter - having consistent url's for things WO could make the effort seem a lot more centralized. One link and you would know you're downloading a working installer from the same site where the tools are hosted. Then following on Kieran's idea, we could have a separate link to a repository for those interested in tracking/committing changes to an installer.

Tim Worman
UCLA GSE&IS

On Dec 6, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

Probably we would have it in Wonder under svn (or maybe somewhere else initially, maybe googlecode, if the effort was by those of us who have not commit rights to Wonder)

... and since any dev worth his salt has svn installed (comes with virgin OS X SL - not sure if it was there before I installed xcode though), so the instructions would be two command. (1) pull down the script from svn (or a mdimension hudson build page and (2) just run it.

This might tie in with Bill Chin's (mDimension) plans to possibly release some scripts that set up a deployment environment since there is commonality there.

On Dec 6, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Tim Worman wrote:

Also, I'm not a shell scripting maestro but I'd volunteer effort to help keep a tool installer updated.

Tim Worman
UCLA GSE&IS



On Dec 6, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

I was setting up a new SL dev environment, and just to see what the initial installation and setup procedure would be like for a complete newbie on SL, I looked on the wiki for instructions for the simplest possible path to new installation on a virgin Snow Leopard.

It seems that really, a newbie would probably be confused and would probably struggle. :-(


After installing WebObjects 5.4.3 using Apple's dmg installer and then installing the "All In One" Eclipse/WOLips installer from Jeremy's .mac page (since the sisu download was slow as molasses with an est time of 1 day+!), I then hit a roadblock, getting an error when launching Eclipse after running Jeremy's installer.
" An Error has occurred"
" See the log file ~/.eclipse/...../blahblah.log"


That error log file is full of "missing required bundle" messages.

Anyway, just FYI, I don't have time for troubleshooting this now .... I am doing my usual 3.4.2 download and install/setup the manual way.

Since Jeremy is not working in WO anymore and this is AIO (All In One) installer is clearly broken for install on a virgin OS X Snow Leopard box, we might want to just discontinue the all-in- one installer and just go write a concise "WebObjects Developer Quick Start Guide" for newbies .......so I started a wiki page on this and will work on completing it as I get time. Any thoughts on that? Should I wipe all references on the wiki to the AIO?

If we are ever going to get new devs to come to WebObjects, we need to have a working quick start. Any dev worth his salt should be comfortable on the command line, so maybe a bash install script that downloads and installs various bits and configures everything might be the better route. Any opinions on that?

BTW, I went to use the WOInstaller.jar initially and thinking that a newbie would want standard install paths, I set the WOInstaller.jar target as "/", but got an error saying System directory already exists. Should the WOInstaller.jar's CPIO class be changed to just overwrite existing files? Does that "overlay" directory paths (aka merge eith existing files if named differently, or does it realyl "replace" existing directories (ie., wiping them out)?

Anyway, this is just some meandering thoughts / discussion before I leave off the "How would a newbie WO dev fare on getting started" for now and go do some work.

Regards, Kieran
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 >Re: All In One Installer broken (From: Tim Worman <email@hidden>)
 >Re: All In One Installer broken (From: Kieran Kelleher <email@hidden>)
 >Re: All In One Installer broken (From: Tim Worman <email@hidden>)
 >Re: All In One Installer broken (From: Don Lindsay <email@hidden>)

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