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Re: Ant build in WO 5.4 not working (Windows)
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Re: Ant build in WO 5.4 not working (Windows)


  • Subject: Re: Ant build in WO 5.4 not working (Windows)
  • From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:22:59 -0700

Hi Susanne,


On Jul 30, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Susanne Schneider wrote:

Hi Pierre,

thank you for your reply.

Mr. Pierre Frisch schrieb:
Hi Susanne,
The WebObjects license is very liberal and the intent is that you can pretty much install it anywhere provided that you don't build a competing dev environment with it.
Ok, I havn't recognized the "Apache License" coming with the installation should apply to WebObjects as there isn't the faintest mentioning of "WebObjects" neither in text nor name of the file.

You are jumping to conclusions and they are not correct.



Or is there another license not coming with the WOInstaller on Windows to which you refer?

I don't use the WOInstaller (and I really doubt that Pierre does), it is not an Apple product. It SHOULD be showing the WebObjects License. I am attaching a recent copy, but I am not sure that it is the MOST recent version of the license. At least it will give you a better idea.


Attachment: License.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document




Download and install this to see the most recent license: http://support.apple.com/downloads/WebObjects_Update_5_4_3_for_Mac_OS_X_10_5



I searched at the Apple-WebObjects website. There it is stated that the XCode licence include the WebObjects license. And there are in deed sections about WebObjects (2A, D), so I assumed the whole license conditions has to be applied.

There seems to be quite a lot of old and obsolete WebObjects licensing information on Apple's site.



Is this the "official" statement? Or could you provide me with an official Apple email contact to ask for? My boss needs a valid statement or we cannot update to 5.4.

Install 5.4.3 from the official Apple download, and print the license. That is as official as it gets.



Chuck



If you have a MacBook why not develop under MacOSX?
There are several reasons: first of all, I am used to Windows ;-)
Our customers deploy on Linux or Windows, sorry no Mac server used. With my colleague working on Mac and myself on Windows we match most of the OS related problems like pathnames and encodings.


Pierre
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On Jul 29, 2009, at 2:49, Susanne Schneider wrote:
Hi Chuck,

first thank you very much for your patience with such a latecomer like me!
Chuck Hill schrieb:
On Jul 28, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Susanne Schneider wrote:
Hello everybody,

today I tempted fate and installed WO 5.4 on an Windows system (based on an MacBook) for development parallel to an existing 5.2 installation.

After trying the tutorial for parallel handling from the wiki without any success I simply copied the new Framework directories into the old location. Not very elegant but seems to work: I could compile in Eclipse (3.5, WOLips 3.4.5872).

But I did not succeed in making an ant build. I always get the message "There is not root named "C:/Apple" in [[Root: name= Project...." when coming to the compile target. Alas I haven't the faintest idea what is meant by that. Could somebody help me, please?? Is the problem related to the new framework/classpath handling I hadn't understand either?
Yes, you need to update the build files. The easiest is to create a new project and move the build.xml file over. This will NOT be compatible with older versions of WOLips (pre-New Hotness). Look in the woapplication task for a section like:
<frameworks root="C:/Apple" ...
It should be more like
<frameworks root="System"
embed="${your.property.here}"
eclipse="true" />

OK, for starting from scratch and learning I make a fresh new TestApp and tried to build that. At first try the ant build needs a new "wolips.properties" which I created. This took me one step further but now the build fails with the message "Could not find wobuild.properties. Run the buildfile: woproperties.xml first".


But I have the normal old-fashioned wobuild.properties in the standard location. And I could not find any "woproperties.xml" file. Do I have to place the wobuild.properties in a special location or to configure it somewhere in Eclipse?

At the moment I found it very confusing: I found 3 locations where the installation of framework path are defined:
- classpath-variables (Eclipse during startup from NEXT_ROOT?)
- wobuild.properties
- wolips.properties
and even there are multiple properties to the same path in one file.



By the way, the licence terms of the 5.4 version leave some points unclear, especially section 4 about termination. I tried to get information from Apple, but at least at the german telephone sites there was no much help. Does anybody knows an email contact at apple for official information ("email@hidden " did come back)?
I don't have the license handy. Do you have a link or can you paste in that section?
The legals are here: http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/ xcode.pdf
The section I found unclear is:


"4. Termination. ... In addition, Apple reserves the right to terminate this Licence if a new version of Apple's operating system software or the Developer Software is released wich is incompatible with this version of the Developer Software. Upon the termination of this Licence, you shall cease all use of the Developer Software and destroy all copies, full or partial, of the Developer Software."

What is meant by "incompatible"? A update from 5.4.3 to 5.4.4 or to 6.0? Does this imply deployed applications too? There is no mentioning how do you get notice of a termination at all. And as I would interpret this section this would even apply if you do not upate your development system.

This is not a very trustable ground for developing to-be-sold software upon. I rather would like to pay for software I am free to use as long as I like (and on any platform I like)!

Regards,
Susanne
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