Re: Ant build in WO 5.4 not working (Windows)
Re: Ant build in WO 5.4 not working (Windows)
- Subject: Re: Ant build in WO 5.4 not working (Windows)
- From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:22:59 -0700
Hi Susanne,
On Jul 30, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Susanne Schneider wrote:
Hi Pierre,
thank you for your reply.
Mr. Pierre Frisch schrieb:
Hi Susanne,
The WebObjects license is very liberal and the intent is that you
can pretty much install it anywhere provided that you don't build a
competing dev environment with it.
Ok, I havn't recognized the "Apache License" coming with the
installation should apply to WebObjects as there isn't the faintest
mentioning of "WebObjects" neither in text nor name of the file.
You are jumping to conclusions and they are not correct.
Or is there another license not coming with the WOInstaller on
Windows to which you refer?
I don't use the WOInstaller (and I really doubt that Pierre does), it
is not an Apple product. It SHOULD be showing the WebObjects
License. I am attaching a recent copy, but I am not sure that it is
the MOST recent version of the license. At least it will give you a
better idea.
Attachment:
License.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
Download and install this to see the most recent license:
http://support.apple.com/downloads/WebObjects_Update_5_4_3_for_Mac_OS_X_10_5
I searched at the Apple-WebObjects website. There it is stated that
the XCode licence include the WebObjects license. And there are in
deed sections about WebObjects (2A, D), so I assumed the whole
license conditions has to be applied.
There seems to be quite a lot of old and obsolete WebObjects licensing
information on Apple's site.
Is this the "official" statement? Or could you provide me with an
official Apple email contact to ask for? My boss needs a valid
statement or we cannot update to 5.4.
Install 5.4.3 from the official Apple download, and print the
license. That is as official as it gets.
Chuck
If you have a MacBook why not develop under MacOSX?
There are several reasons: first of all, I am used to Windows ;-)
Our customers deploy on Linux or Windows, sorry no Mac server used.
With my colleague working on Mac and myself on Windows we match most
of the OS related problems like pathnames and encodings.
Pierre
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On Jul 29, 2009, at 2:49, Susanne Schneider wrote:
Hi Chuck,
first thank you very much for your patience with such a latecomer
like me!
Chuck Hill schrieb:
On Jul 28, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Susanne Schneider wrote:
Hello everybody,
today I tempted fate and installed WO 5.4 on an Windows system
(based on an MacBook) for development parallel to an existing
5.2 installation.
After trying the tutorial for parallel handling from the wiki
without any success I simply copied the new Framework
directories into the old location. Not very elegant but seems to
work: I could compile in Eclipse (3.5, WOLips 3.4.5872).
But I did not succeed in making an ant build. I always get the
message "There is not root named "C:/Apple" in [[Root: name=
Project...." when coming to the compile target. Alas I haven't
the faintest idea what is meant by that. Could somebody help me,
please?? Is the problem related to the new framework/classpath
handling I hadn't understand either?
Yes, you need to update the build files. The easiest is to
create a new project and move the build.xml file over. This will
NOT be compatible with older versions of WOLips (pre-New
Hotness). Look in the woapplication task for a section like:
<frameworks root="C:/Apple" ...
It should be more like
<frameworks root="System"
embed="${your.property.here}"
eclipse="true" />
OK, for starting from scratch and learning I make a fresh new
TestApp and tried to build that. At first try the ant build needs
a new "wolips.properties" which I created. This took me one step
further but now the build fails with the message "Could not find
wobuild.properties. Run the buildfile: woproperties.xml first".
But I have the normal old-fashioned wobuild.properties in the
standard location. And I could not find any "woproperties.xml"
file. Do I have to place the wobuild.properties in a special
location or to configure it somewhere in Eclipse?
At the moment I found it very confusing: I found 3 locations where
the installation of framework path are defined:
- classpath-variables (Eclipse during startup from NEXT_ROOT?)
- wobuild.properties
- wolips.properties
and even there are multiple properties to the same path in one file.
By the way, the licence terms of the 5.4 version leave some
points unclear, especially section 4 about termination. I tried
to get information from Apple, but at least at the german
telephone sites there was no much help. Does anybody knows an
email contact at apple for official information ("email@hidden
" did come back)?
I don't have the license handy. Do you have a link or can you
paste in that section?
The legals are here: http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/
xcode.pdf
The section I found unclear is:
"4. Termination. ... In addition, Apple reserves the right to
terminate this Licence if a new version of Apple's operating
system software or the Developer Software is released wich is
incompatible with this version of the Developer Software. Upon the
termination of this Licence, you shall cease all use of the
Developer Software and destroy all copies, full or partial, of the
Developer Software."
What is meant by "incompatible"? A update from 5.4.3 to 5.4.4 or
to 6.0? Does this imply deployed applications too? There is no
mentioning how do you get notice of a termination at all. And as I
would interpret this section this would even apply if you do not
upate your development system.
This is not a very trustable ground for developing to-be-sold
software upon. I rather would like to pay for software I am free
to use as long as I like (and on any platform I like)!
Regards,
Susanne
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