Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects
Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects
- Subject: Re: Snow Leopard compatibility and the future of webobjects
- From: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:14:36 -0400
Dave already did this, but I wanted to do a pass also.
Let me begin this by saying that I have to be very careful what I say
because I _actually know what is going on_.
"Mac OS X 10.6 server no longer support WebObjects."
WO is not on the list of technologies included by default in 10.6, as
shown on the 10.6 page. There are lots of interpretations of this.
Since Apple itself is still using WebObjects for MobileMe, iTunes
store, AppleStore website, RADAR, devforums and many other system,
it's difficult to totally replace all the webobjects app to other
technology at once.
It would be ridiculous for Apple to even consider replacing their
incredibly profitable and scalable web properties that are built on a
very powerful technology.
However, I speculate that Apple will put less and less effort on
WebObjects year by year.
The iTunes Store is wildly successful and increasing in popularity
every day. Is it realistic to think that the strategic move for Apple
is to decrease the development effort on the underlying platform?
Although WO 5.5/5.6 is coming, I personally
do not expect any other good news from Apple.
That makes one of us.
First deprecates
wo-tools, then discontinue the support of WO in the next release of
their OS.
Regardless of what that statement actually means, have you ever used
Apple's WebObjects support? I know I haven't. Anyone who wants
ACTUAL WO support, email me -- mDimension would be happy to put
together a support package for you.
Apple's attitute is obvious
Clearly it's not obvious.
––I even talked to an Apple
employee at WWDC08 and he said, "You are using WebObjects? I thought
only europeans use that." Of course it's just kidding in a very
private conversation, but it more or less shows that not all Apple
employees are satisfying with WebObjects, and I guess their percentage
isn't low. It seems that this year we have nothing metioned on the
WWDC IT session page. No lab either.
We should be sure not to invite THAT guy to WebObjects Christmas
Party ...
Even Apple's current wo apps were not good testimonials for WO.
iTunes Store and Apple Store are two of the largest online stores in
the world. I can't think of better testimonials for WO.
Some
developers think that Apple's web apps are infamous as
20-century-style and feel frustrated when using them. (It's a long
story about how Apple Online Store screw its customer's names with
iPhone dev program) Well, it may not be the problem of the essence of
WO at all, but the lack of documentation/support is.
Ajax framework has been available for 2 or 3 years in Project Wonder
now, and has some capabilities that are unique to WO. If you came to
WOWODC, you would have seen that we have frameworks for writing
RESTful JSON services as well. Not sure what hot 21st century
technology you're missing.
Maybe why WebObjects is still in Apple is because (1) Apple has no
other web technology, (2) Pierre try hard to defending and promoting
WO, and (3) both.
There's a "(4) because it's awesome" that you're leaving out.
I predict the future of WebObjects will be totally
running from community.
Could you share some thoughts with me? Thanks.
Thoughts = shared.
ms
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