Re: WOWODC West
Re: WOWODC West
- Subject: Re: WOWODC West
- From: Dan Grec <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:59:16 -0600
Another idea for the stack:
At WOWODC it was emphasized to create an MVC app.
I understand Model and View really well in the WebObjects world - but
I'm pretty shady on the Controller.
Maybe we can see some sample Controllers and how they work..?
-Dan
On 30-Mar-09, at 4:45 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
On Mar 27, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Mar 27, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
Le 09-03-27 à 18:33, Chuck Hill a écrit :
• Java client: it's current status and it's future
Only used by wild eyed lunatics in cookie factories.
Hey! I resemble that!
That was just a poke at David A, a wild eyed lunatic that works
in a cookie factory and uses JC. ;-)
Not only JC, but D2JC and he deploy on Windows in Tomcat! It's a
good thing that he works for a cookie factory :-P
When I was young, my mother always said that sugar would rot my
brain (the beer came later). David is living proof of the truth of
this! Tomcat on Windows, eh? Wow, I had no idea it had gotten so
bad. It is a wonder he does not add Maven in there.
So this is what happens when I take a Friday afternoon off?!
For your information, I learned WebObjects and Java together while
deploying my D2JC app on Windows in Tomcat. At the time it all
seemed so perfectly reasonable, it was just another option to check
in Xcode. And you know, what? It has worked great for almost 5
years! Transitioning to WOLips though was more difficult with this
setup. It forced me to understand the structure of a WO application
when I was happily oblivious before.
I did give up Vertical Inheritance along the way and I've never even
considered Maven, so I'm not completely crazy!
(cough, Lachlan, cough) :-)
I know that Java Client didn't get a great response at WOWODC last
year, which is disappointing, but we hardly scratched the surface.
With only one session all Flor was able to do was discus some of the
basics of JC and show off the JBND framework. D2JC wasn't even
touched upon. There simply wasn't enough time to cover what would be
needed to really have people understand JC and D2JC as well as
things like AJAX and WOnder. I mean really, I think D2JC and JC with
JBND are both probably far easier to learn than learning how to make
HTML sort-of act like a rich client.
It would be truly interesting to see a Client-side bake off where JC
and Web clients are put head-to-head by giving a set of basic
requirements and see not only which technology can implement it more
fully, with better usability, in an hour.
Anyway, Getting started with JC and intro to D2JC are really pretty
basic and I now that WOWODC is being divided, I really think they
would belong in WOWODC East. With that said, I would be willing to
sit down with anyone interested at WOWODC West to go over the
basics, as far as I understand them.
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