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Re: Need some advice for integrating a Cocoa and WO app
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Re: Need some advice for integrating a Cocoa and WO app


  • Subject: Re: Need some advice for integrating a Cocoa and WO app
  • From: Pascal Robert <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 07:05:54 -0400


Le 09-05-05 à 07:00, David Avendasora a écrit :


On May 5, 2009, at 6:38 AM, Gustavo Adolfo Pizano wrote:

Hello Andrew:

The project involves a Web app and a cocoa app that both authenticate over the same LDAP server, and can connect after to a SQL server(the same one), for different proposes, like showing an address book, showing, handling financial stuff, Calendars etc, they hadn't told me much about it but as far as I understand it's something like that.

So both applications do the the same, over the same servers, just that one its made for web and the other one to run natively on os X.

What you are describing here means that the Cocoa app and the WO app know nothing about each other and they can easily change each-others data in the SQL database and it is going to cause you _lots_ of headaches. Both apps are going to have caches of data and they _will_ get out of sync.


By making the Cocoa client apps talk to the WebObjects server instead of the DB, then you can greatly cut down on data synchronization issues because the WebObjects server application manages all interaction with the SQL database.

By using JSON RPC (or other WebService technolgy) you are creating two different _clients_ for your WebObjects _server_.
1) Web
2) Cocoa


By having both clients talk to the WebObjects server, you can consolidate a lot of your business logic in one place - on the server in, in WebObjects. If they insist on a Cocoa client talking directly to the SQL database then there is no common repository of business logic and it will all have to be written (and debugged!) twice - once for the Cocoa app and once for the Web App.

The way I usually explain this to customers/clients/employers is that the amount of work is the square of the number of independent applications. Having 2 different apps talking independently to the DB is 4-times as much work as having 1. Having 3 independent apps is 9-times the amount of work.

Having them both talk to the WO server instead of directly to the DB eliminates a huge amount of work and risk. It is still complicated, but much less complicated than both talking directly to the DB.

I'm with Dave here. Imagine that your boss also want a VB.Net and a iPhone app that do the same thing as the Cocoa and WO apps? You would have to write logic for 4 apps and in 3 different languages! By having the WO app as the back-end, and if you do it right, you can offer JSON, REST, SOAP, JavaClient, etc. to clients apps, and the clients would be thin (e.g. with a minimum of logic). _______________________________________________
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