Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?
Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?
- Subject: Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?
- From: Martin Perez Barreiro <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:51:48 -0200
I believe it is a great thing that a wo oriented conference exists (no mater if it is because apple dropped wo sessions), but I also feel that would be nice if Apple as the 'owner' of WO showed some interest on it.
I feel sometimes I invest a lot of energy on something that has a blury future, and that fact makes getting people or clients hard to believe developing in wo is a good choice. Maybe if just Apple show some clear interst or a defined roadmap will be nice.
Best regards,
M.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Pascal Robert
<email@hidden> wrote:
Le 09-11-24 à 19:12, Lachlan Deck a écrit :
On 25/11/2009, at 11:03 AM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:
Let's remember *why* these community conventions were organised... because Apple, who used to offer various training in WO even internationally at one stage has decided to offer very little.
Now it seems to me, given their WO direction, that it was good for them to consolidate and concentrate on the frameworks - rather than the tools etc. Having a vibrant community for your technology is not the enemy you're making it out to be.
IMHO, nobody is making any enemies here.
Of course.
One could ague that Apple is recognizing the community and adjusting its convention strategy accordingly. Why have WO sessions at WWDC if such content are much better addressed at WOWODC?
I'm just making the point that Apple is not responding to the community's drive to run conventions by pulling back - they pulled back beforehand. Pascal didn't organise WOWODC because he wanted to duplicate efforts. But certainly Apple being involved in WOWODC is a good thing.
You're right, in 2007 it was organized to complement WWDC since for a couple of years, WWDC only had a couple of WO sessions. In 2008, we gave a voice to third-party frameworks because we know that those topics will never be talked about at WWDC. For 2009, well we saw that WWDC is really the iPhone show (not much IT sessions not related to the iPhone too, it's not just WO who don't get some WWDC love).
About teamwork for WOWODC, well I prefer not to comment on that... But I would love that Apple put back WO session in WWDC so that I can get back the 120 hours of time I have put in WOWODCs in 2009... _______________________________________________
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