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And I also think the community surrounding WebObjects and Wonder is as important as EOF itself. There has been at least three separate instances this week alone of new features and fixes being committed simply because someone brought them up on the list. I can't even count the number of people (myself included) that have been helped directly by a WO expert within minutes of asking for it. I can't even imagine getting this level of service if I were paying for it!
I'd love for Apple to participate more by defining the direction of WO development, releasing great new features, providing training and direct support but in reality we already have all that through Wonder, WOLips, WOWODC and these lists!
In a way, I look at Apple as simply being a participant in the WO community, and not even the most active one.
Dave On Nov 25, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Antonio Petri wrote: I think the point of the discussion is that what Apple does to WO is
irrelevant. Apple WO+EOF is a stable, mature technology core; Wonder is
a community effort that is very actively developed, and whether the
Apple's development
stops or not it doesn't really matter. Wonder can continue to be developed and enhanced, and in this
respect there is no difference in terms of chances of survival from another open source project like Hibernate. If you
really like WO/Wonder and think that it makes you more productive than other technologies, then you should stop
worrying.
-Antonio
2009/11/25 Martin Perez Barreiro <email@hidden>
after all the wording here I see no clear future and what is worse I dont see how to support the idea of selling wo developments to clients if Apple continues to give no signs of wo survival. After all I have the feeling I will end up developing in spring+hibernate+wicket (already started as a safe net...).
regards,
M.
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Kieran Kelleher <email@hidden> wrote:
Getting back to the original productive(!) discussion (before David Avendasora went crazy and started talking about seeing Leprechauns!), if anyone out there has any experience of build some Cappucino-talking-to-WO apps, maybe they might be interested in presenting at WOWODC2010 .... I am sure that will be a "full session"
-Kieran
On Nov 24, 2009, at 5:20 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
You could certainly make apps in a JS front-end with restful services with SproutCore or Cappuccino today. GWT is a little trickier, only because you have to drink more kool-aid. As far as REMAKING Gianduia, I think this would be a huge undertaking. Certainly possible, it's not magic, but I wouldn't want to. It's a ton of work to pull it off well. If you want to build that kind of app today, I'd look at SC or Cap.
ms
On Nov 24, 2009, at 3:58 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
How hard would it be to make our own Gianduia? .... or to have similar functionality using ERXRest framework and Cappucino, GWT, or sth like that? Is Gianduia so revolutionary that we could never make something comparable in Wonder?
On Nov 24, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
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