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Re: 2009 surveys results


  • Subject: Re: 2009 surveys results
  • From: Ramsey Lee Gurley <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:13:44 -0400


On Oct 25, 2009, at 7:28 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:


----- "Chuck Hill" <email@hidden> a écrit :

On Oct 24, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Don Lindsay wrote:

I agree with Robert, I created several tutorials for WebObjects as

well as an installer for windows and linux. This is something that

I use my spare time to support.

Based on my review of hits to the tutorials, they are rarely
accessed.

I probably knew about these at one time, but forgot.  Self promotion

might be a good thing here.  :-)  Are there links from the WO
Community site?  I think they should be.

I didn't add them to the podcast feed because iTunes won't handle Flash files. I guess I have to find a way to add Flash podcast to the new site and filtering them out from the RSS feed. But QuickTime, MP3 and PDF files are prefered, for more visibility :-)


If quicktime can handle it, iTunes can load it. It might not play on an iPod, but you can wrap the video in a SMIL and hand it to Quicktime like I did with my 'hire me' podcast back in January. Here's the file that does the magic...

SMILtext<!DOCTYPE smil PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SMIL 1.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-smil/SMIL10.dtd";>
<smil xmlns:qt="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/resources/smilextensions";>
	<head>
		<layout>
			<root-layout id="main" width="1280" height="720" background-color="black" title="R2D2W" />
			<region id="r1" width="1280" height="720" top="0" left="0" title="Movie Sequence" />
		</layout>
	</head>
	<body>
		<seq>
			<img src="http://www.me.com/ix/rgurley/Public/r2d2w/Intro.pct"; region="r1" alt="Introduction" dur="00:10" />
			<video type="video/quicktime" title="Introduction" src="http://www.me.com/ix/rgurley/Public/r2d2w/Intro.mov"; region="r1" alt="Describe the reasons for the video." />
			<img src="http://www.me.com/ix/rgurley/Public/r2d2w/Poster1.pct"; region="r1" alt="Standards Compliant poster frame" dur="00:03" />
			<video type="video/quicktime" title="Introduction" src="http://www.me.com/ix/rgurley/Public/r2d2w/ValidMarkup.mov"; region="r1" alt="Demonstrates that R2D2W produces fully validating markup."/>
			<img src="http://www.me.com/ix/rgurley/Public/r2d2w/Poster2.pct"; region="r1" alt="Localization poster frame" dur="00:03" />
			<video type="video/quicktime" title="Introduction" src="http://www.me.com/ix/rgurley/Public/r2d2w/Localization.mov"; region="r1" alt="Demonstrates that R2D2W is fully localized."/>
			<img src="http://www.me.com/ix/rgurley/Public/r2d2w/Poster3.pct"; region="r1" alt="User management poster frame" dur="00:03" />
			<video type="video/quicktime" title="Introduction" src="http://www.me.com/ix/rgurley/Public/r2d2w/UserManagment.mov"; region="r1" alt="Demonstrates R2D2W user management features."/>
			<img src="http://www.me.com/ix/rgurley/Public/r2d2w/Poster4.pct"; region="r1" alt="RSS &amp; Podcasting poster frame" dur="00:03" />
			<video type="video/quicktime" title="Introduction" src="http://www.me.com/ix/rgurley/Public/r2d2w/DirectActions.mov"; region="r1" alt="Demonstrates R2D2W's use of direct actions."/>
			<img src="http://www.me.com/ix/rgurley/Public/r2d2w/Poster5.pct"; region="r1" alt="Section 508 poster frame" dur="00:03" />
			<video type="video/quicktime" title="Introduction" src="http://www.me.com/ix/rgurley/Public/r2d2w/Section508.mov"; region="r1" alt="Demonstrates some accessibility features of R2D2W."/>
			<a href="http://www.me.com/ix/rgurley/Public/r2d2w/Resume.html";><img src="http://www.me.com/ix/rgurley/Public/r2d2w/End.pct"; region="r1" alt="The End" dur="00:03" /></a>
		</seq>
	</body>
</smil>


the trick is to add SMILtext to the very beginning of your SMIL file. Then just change the extension to mov. If you can work with QT's quirky implementation of SMIL, then iTunes will love you.

Unfortunately it seems QuickTime's flash support is pretty weak these days. It once was able to play up to flash 5 videos I think. Trying to open http://web.me.com/pccdonl/tutorials/WoLipsInstall.swf in QuickTime today was rather disappointing.

Ramsey


If they were used more, I would create more of them.

The tutorials I made are available at:
http://web.me.com/pccdonl/tutorials/WoLipsInstall.htm
as is the installer. (I havent updated the installer in a couple

of months)

http://web.me.com/pccdonl/ I think you mean.


Chuck



On Oct 23, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

The problem with this is time... I was thinking of a online book
where you can ask O'Reilly or other publisher to print it and sell

it to give back to writers, like Thinking in Java or the MySQL
manual are. And frankly, based on the number of people who wanted

to attend WOWODC East for the beginner track was so low that's part

of the reason we dropped it (the track). But at the same time,
people say in the surveys that the scarity of developers is a
problem, so it's a chicken-and-egg problem. And also the fact
that's is always the same group of 10-15 persons who give back to

the community, which is, speaking only for myself, a burden.

IMHO
You gurus need to put out a few really in-depth tutorials.  Maybe

each could do a little piece. It is hard to sell something like

WO without a good way
for people to get in the loop.  You may want to review Joshua'
Marker's book on WO which I thought was the absolute best for
attracting new people to
the technology.  After reading this book you could actually build

a functioning WO site. You could easily do this with a few very

good tutorials.

ken
On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:


On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:27 AM, John Larson wrote:

I'm kind of goading Chuck on to write a sequel to "Practical
WebObjects."  How about "Absurdly Cool WebObjects"?

The Book of Chuck?

WebObjects: Getting Chunky Wid It?

I won't say never, but right now I am having a hard time getting

the time to finish WOVNG.

Chuck



On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Miguel Arroz wrote:

Hi!

On 2009/10/23, at 17:46, John & Kim Larson wrote:

without having the patience to read the manual,

Is there a manual?

Yours

Miguel Arroz

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