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Re: What could we do to convince Apple to opensource WebObjects ?
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Re: What could we do to convince Apple to opensource WebObjects ?


  • Subject: Re: What could we do to convince Apple to opensource WebObjects ?
  • From: Lachlan Deck <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:49:19 +1000

On 17/09/2009, at 12:24 PM, Andrew Lindesay wrote:

Here's the other thing from a developer standpoint...if they ever were to open source it, it would surely be APSL and not GPL so you could never borrow any of the code for anything anyway. Most Linux distributions won't touch the APSL (see launchd and bonjour). So really what would be the point? Just so you could recompile it? You can already override/replace almost any part of the framework. Or is there something in the current in the current license that's bugging you?

On the path to WO 5.4.3 over 2007/2008, and simply when I'm trying to understand specific behaviours, not having the source-code was/is quite annoying

Spot on. Jad and I have gotten along very well in recent years for this very reason. This is I suspect truer for developers making more extensive use of the WO/EOF api.


-- I would have thought that it would be beneficial for Apple to have all of us being able to submit suggested solutions into Radar rather than just problems.

Indeed.

Real engineering problems however are, in my opinion, dwarfed by the political issues around having no source-access and releases managed as "surprises" to the user base.

Again, what he said :-)

There were some attempts made at seeding future versions of WO (remember the downloadable maven repo zip from ADC); the problem being it came without docs, wasn't updated regularly, etc. Should that be revisited it'd need a channel of communication with, at the very least, selected devs.

with regards,
--

Lachlan Deck

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