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Re: WebObjects and dependency injection (DI)


  • Subject: Re: WebObjects and dependency injection (DI)
  • From: Anjo Krank <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:22:56 +0200

Just so I know: does DI make anything simpler aside from unit testing? Is it worth the cost of un-readbility and un-debugablity? I mean, for foreign code i totally rely on eclipse call graphs... these are a nightmare with interfaces, not to mention missing constructors.

Cheers, Anjo



Am 21.09.2009 um 21:17 schrieb Andrus Adamchik:

Hi Henrique,

Nice, thanks for sharing this info. Yeah, going through WOApplication and WOComponentDefinition, I realized I was too optimistic. Most interesting methods that would've enabled DI integration are all private. Quite a bit of code to rewrite to make it work. I was even thinking of limiting injection to just the Application class.

Great that you are willing to open source your work in this area. Even if you load your code in its current state to a public SVN (ObjectStyle.org is always an option) or git somewhere, it will be a rather helpful example.

Cheers,
Andrus

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Andrus Adamchik
Apache Cayenne ORM: http://cayenne.apache.org/
Creator of Cayenne, VP Apache Software Foundation


On Sep 21, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Henrique Prange wrote:
Hi Andrus,

Andrus Adamchik wrote:
I know it is not the traditional "WO way" of doing things, but from my experience using a dependency injection container in your app (Spring, Guice, etc.) is one single thing that you can do to dramatically improve the design quality, and produce flexible and maintainable code.

We have been using Guice with WO for some time in our projects. Our code become easier to test without requiring too much boilerplate code using a DI container.


WO does a bit of that on its own (such as session and application injection in components), but doesn't bundle a container that a developer could use for the custom "services" (unlike say Tapestry, that does have a DI container at its core).
Say I have a WO application and I'd like to use Spring or Guice to inject custom services in the WOComponents, instead of looking them up in WOApplication (or worse - defining them as static singletons somewhere). This sounds easy on the surface. I don't remember all the component creation internals now (it's been a while since I poked around the framework code), but I am pretty sure I can create them with my own factory that is DI container aware. On the other hand (also because I've been out of the loop on WO for quite some time), I am sure I am missing some pieces of the puzzle that would make such setup less practical or outright painful.

Instead of changing component creation internals, we've created an extension of ERXComponent that obtain the injector and inject the required members. It is not a perfect solution (you can't use constructor injection this way), but it is easy to implement.


This and the fact that DI capabilities don't seem to bother the rest of the community, I figured I'd ask the list on your opinions, while I am trying to wire this thing up in the background.
So anybody played with DI-on-WO in some form with any success?

We have an audit framework completely based on Guice. We have created extensions of other important classes to make it possible, like ERXGenericRecord and ERXEC and we have created a @WOSessionScoped scope to create/obtain objects per WOSession.


We are planning to create an open source framework with this stuff. We are just polishing what we've done to use some new features of Guice 2.0.

Cheers,

Henrique

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