Re: announcement
Re: announcement
- Subject: Re: announcement
- From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:40:33 -0700
On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:04 AM, David LeBer wrote:
On 2010-04-22, at 11:45 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
:-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that that's the case, but
there's been others who start working at Apple and then suddenly
stop posting, or only post rarely.
With someone as high profile and insanely helpful as Mike I think
many of us are just a little nervous about it.
Apple has secrets to keep, and everyone is pretty aware of the
lengths they will go to keep them.
Unless, of course, they have been drinking German beer...
Sadly for us, Mike does not drink German beer so Apple's secrets will
remain safe.
In addition, many people will interpret a message from someone with
an apple.com email address (especially someone with Mike's profile)
as being (at least partially) a statement from Apple (no matter how
much effort is put into disclaiming it.)
Those two things have got to have a chilling effect.
I am optimistic that Mike will remain very active in the community.
If that doesn't include being as outspoken in public venues, I will
understand why.
Dave
On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
Mike's not going to disappear you know.
On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
1+, Apple should only hire anonymous WO devs, not the ones who
are actually helping the community :-)
No! don't take everyone from the list ;-)
d
On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
We're hiring.
Alan
On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them. I
know they don't have enough skilled WO developers. I am not
sure they could ever have enough.
Chuck
On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P
We're a drop in the bucket compared to all of their employees
world wide.
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill <email@hidden
> wrote:
Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo
Well, that is the end of an era. I am sure that Bill and
everyone at mDimension will sorely miss you. My thanks to
Bill & Co for all the past and future support of WebObjects
(and Mike). It has been really great and it is good to know
that they will remain active in WebObjects (albeit at perhaps
a slightly less frantic pace).
And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike "The
Unstoppable Code Machine" Schrag into it's black hole vortex
of WO developers. Did I mention it is getting lonely out
here? I am sure good things will come of this. I hope we
still see you on the lists now and then.
Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.
Chuck
On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30
will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I
accepted a position at Apple. Not to worry, though --
supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my
responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS
has done a really good job demonstrating that they're
committed to contributing, with Entity Modeler app,
eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently with
ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of
the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to
a lot of exciting things in the future.
As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms.
They have been a great company to work for over the past 5
years. For years before I came on, Bill would tell me about
this framework called WebObjects and how great it was. When I
started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of
books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on
The Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial
investment in the community, supporting every bit of
development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the
build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for
that.
For the things you guys may directly care about:
* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple
capacity
To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but
you can use my email@hidden email address.
ms
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