Re: what will we miss about Max OS X?
Re: what will we miss about Max OS X?
- Subject: Re: what will we miss about Max OS X?
- From: David LeBer <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 22:24:20 -0500
On 2010-12-20, at 10:16 PM, Ray Kiddy wrote:
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> On Dec 20, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
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>> Personally, OS X Server is useful for just Web hosting. As a general workgroup server, now that's different. I made a chart of the Mac Mini Server vs Windows Small Business Server on Dell/HP/Lenovo boxes, and the Mini is 50% cheaper while not having any limit of the number of users. And OS X Server is a joy to install vs. Windows SMB, I had to install SMB and that stupid crap won't warm you about not having enough RAM until it's half-way into the install, and when you got it to run, it tell you to disable the DHCP service on your network so that Windows start its own!
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> You're comparing to Windows here. I was talking about comparisons to real servers. Sorry, did not think that even needed to be said.
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> "Better than Windows" is the same as saying "better than a stick in the eye." Lots of things are better than a stick in the eye.
We will miss the warm and fuzzy of deploying on the same OS we develop on. But, we recently moved to a Hudson build server running on Linux ,so that compensates somewhat by at least building on the same OS we use for deploying.
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> - ray
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>>> I am curious what others are thinking about this. My company has several data centers around the work running on Mac OS X Servers, but given the announcements from Apple, we are obviously re-thinking our deployments.
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>>> And as we do so, a few things come to mind. For example:
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>>> - No more Software Update. We could actually be more easily in control of our installations.
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>>> - The ability to take extra crap off of the servers. I have only one word. iTunes. Why is it so hard to remove this from our servers?
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>>> - We could go to different kinds of hardware, like blade systems.
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>>> - We can use a more easily virtualized OS.
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>>> So, what will we miss?
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>>> I think we may miss launchd, or at least I will. But then, for example, JavaMonitor does not control app instances with launchd and I think it should, so it is obviously not as compelling to others as I think it should be.
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>>> Will we miss Server Admin? No. Nice GUI but then, where the heck does it put things and what is not quite available via the UI? For every time it helps, there is another time it causes other hassles.
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>>> So, is there anything else to miss? Maybe not. The WO deployment mailing list might be getting more interesting. We will see.
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>>> - ray
;david
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