Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss
Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss
- Subject: Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss
- From: Daniel Beatty <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:25:41 -0700
Greetings Pankaj,
For me it was a matter of simplicity. I already had both VMWare for cross platform development. I also had OSX Server for XGrid development.
In the case of WO, the MySQL that comes with OSX Server is simply convenient. Thus with what I had, the virtual OSX Server was convenient. Of course, membership has a lot more uses than these conveniences.
You can choose any database that you like. Wonder has a number of templates that make developing WO apps with EO models convenient.
On the IDE issue, it is a matter of the right tool for the job. XCode has very good support for Objective-C, Ruby, Python, and AppleScript. About 2006, Apple was seeing a huge following on the Eclipse side of developing with WO and a set tools being developed at a pace that surpassed expectations. Thus, like any smart company they simply endorsed the Java WO on Eclipse IDE mode of development. Again, right tools for the job.
Later,
Dan
On Mar 20, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Pankaj D wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> Thanks for the Good Advice ..... But do i really require an (OSX Server -VMware) combo even if i am developing locally .... i mean .... OSX and OSX server looks pretty much the same ... other than some server apps thrown into OSX server ... or is it mandatory ... for development/ deployment .....
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> Also Which is a better IDE ..for WO Eclipse or Xcode ....
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> Regards
> Pankaj
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> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Daniel Beatty <email@hidden> wrote:
> Greetings Pankaj,
> I wish I could say that all of us are unbiased, but we foxes love guarding the hen house.
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> Rails and WO have much in common since many of the design patterns are the same. Thus the learning curve might not be so bad. It is a matter of Ruby-Java hurdles, which are not all that difficult..
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> Up until a week or two ago, I could have suggested getting a Select membership and a copy of VMWare Fusion to run OSX Server (10.5 or 10.6). That is generally the setup I use for developing WO. In my case, the Eclipse IDE is running on my Snow Leopard Macbook Pro and VMWare Fusion is running a copy of OSX Server with the MySQL that comes with it. For the most part, it is a good lazy man's development environment. I am still making heads or tails out of current events at Apple.
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> That being said, the run time environment for WO deployment can be just about any platform. I love my Mac, and I have no trouble running WO under CentOS or SuSE Linux (as long as someone else is maintaining that Linux machine). Project Wonder provides installers of the WO run time environment for Linux for some time now. The issue for WO on Apple hardware is for the development libraries. In other words, develop on a Mac and deploy anywhere.
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> My jury is still out on the scalability question. In my case, I am still finalizing the model that I am using for my dissertation prototype. Due to its complexity, that work will just have to be sure, steady, and even a piece at a time.
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> Later,
> Dan
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> On Mar 20, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Pankaj D wrote:
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> > Hi , everyone
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> > This is my first post to any apple mailing list after transition to mac platform ... and i am impressed with the overall development tools available ... in Mac OS X... earlier to that the next most impressive stack for development was "LINUX" ....
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> > I am a web developer with 2+ yrs exp ,... in PHP and Rails ....
> > After transitioning to Mac .. i wanted to use WebObjects ... i have a project with a client around $ 30K worth and 6 months at hand ... so i can develop in my leasure time .... my question should i experiment .. with learning "WO" and simultaneously develop the project ... or stick to what i know (PHP/Rails) ... considering that i read at lot of places that "WO" is very easy ... and more powerfull than "Rails" ....
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> > Also my client wants a webserver deployment at office ... so do i have to suggest him to buy a MAC OS X Server or "WO" can be deployed on normal x86 Server hardware ....
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> > What Are the scalability options in "WO" ... as this project has an annual maintenance of $ 18K ... and any development extra ....
> >
> > Regards
> > Pankaj
> >
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