Re: Scala and WebObjects
Re: Scala and WebObjects
- Subject: Re: Scala and WebObjects
- From: Pascal Robert <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 06:26:52 -0500
Le 2010-11-11 à 06:14, Farrukh Ijaz a écrit :
> On 2010-11-11, at 1:46 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
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>> Le 2010-11-11 à 04:15, Anjo Krank a écrit :
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>>> And the ORM can't cache relationships and doesn't have an EC? Great...
>>>
>>> I was the google developer day the other day and they presented SpringRoo. Most of the people there thought it was the coolest thing things sliced bread... little do they know.
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>> That's the sad story about WO. I went to the Alfresco DevCon last week, and every time I said "WebObjects" to someone, only one know what it is (he was using WO 3.5 back in the days). I talked to Alex Williams from ReadWriteWeb and it's one of the guys who didn't know what is WO (and the whole Apple JVM deprecation thing).
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> I think one of the reasons was to Patent EOF. There is an open source initiative know as Apache Cayenne. Besides this, other technologies (most of them I guess) has some support from Oracle and Oracle (Sun Microsystems), IBM and most importantly JSR Groups.
> My personal opinion is WO, Wonder is one of the best, unique frameworks that do not have any competitor out there, but they are gradually being left as Orphans (especially after Apple's declaration to deprecate Java, which means to me the Java version of WO is also deprecated, means Wonder is deprecated too).
Well, I didn't see any job postings on Apple site seeking Objective-C people to rewrite WO in Objective-C. Like I said to the ReadWriteWeb guy, Apple themselves needs a JVM for all their WO apps + a couple of J2EE ones (iTunes Connect is an example), so either Apple have their own internal JVM or they will use OpenJDK.
> I think, the best way would seek Oracle to adopt WO and Wonder. This will give two benefits. Since the technology is proven. There are chances, Oracle will empower existing team and invest resources to port the WO + Wonder API and Development Environment to other platforms including the Rule Engine and do the best to make it integral part of other J2EE Application Servers.
Yeah, but Apple rarely give/sell their technologies to other people... In fact, I don't remember Apple selling any of their stuff to other providers in the last 10 years.
> God Knows!
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>> FYI, Alfresco also use a Spring framework, Sprint Surf. I saw a bit of it at the conference. Looks ok, but it seems to use a hell lot of description (XML) files.
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> The do have annotations as well but XML is for people who still are in love with XML. Looks like an influential HTML author was part of the steering committee.
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> Farrukh
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