Re: [Wonder-disc] new wolips and wonder --
Re: [Wonder-disc] new wolips and wonder --
- Subject: Re: [Wonder-disc] new wolips and wonder --
- From: David LeBer <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:08:08 -0500
On 2010-11-27, at 1:56 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
> I have a few Cloud Server OS X now.
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> http://www.godaddy.com/hosting/mac-hosting.aspx?ci=18037
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> Is cheap, works great and it is OS X, easy to use and install.
Nice.
Though since making the decision to move to commodity Linux as our deployment focus we've been pretty happy. It's cheap, ubiquitous, and importantly in a VPS setting, the core OS has a low memory footprint.
Of course your specific requirements and ranking of the tradeoffs involved will make this an individual choice.
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> On 2010/11/27, at 17:36, David LeBer wrote:
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>> On 2010-11-26, at 11:12 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote:
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>>> On Nov 26, 2010, at 3:50 PM, David LeBer wrote:
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>>>> Nothing to chip in on EC2.
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>>>> But we've are really enjoying working with linodes from Linode.com.
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>>> really?
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>>> I'm of no particular preference, and certainly could switch, but I saw the wolastic image and it just seemed reliable.
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>>> I can't imagine how anyone could complete a finished app deployment without configuring the apache right? Am I to setup another OS image for apache and website stuff? use wolastic image as just the app engine?
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>>> Or, maybe I should ask how one might one get a new server setup on linode.com? If its easier, I'm up for it - now's the time, as I'm just starting the new system!
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>> Well with linode you get a vanilla Linux distribution of your choice (we use Ubuntu 10.4 LTS) so you are responsible for setting it up yourself.
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>> Given that we deploy our apps with all frameworks embedded, the setup is really just getting Java, Apache, and whatever db we need installed. That's all documented, so I've not found it terribly arduous. Linode also offers a "StackScript" system that allows you to create (or chose from a selection of pre-existing) scripts that you can apply to your nodes when they are created. So once you know what you need to do to create a new WO app host node you can automate the process.
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>> The one caveat for using any VPS service is that they are often anemic when it comes to RAM and storage.
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>> The route we've adopted is to create dedicated nodes for our services (i:e: nodes that are sized for the app instances, another sized for the db, another to run JavaMonitor, etc). VPSs work well if you scale horizontally (add additional nodes to handle growth rather than expanding the individual node sizes).
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>> In addition any apps that have a heavy requirement on resource vending (images, media files etc) we've re-engineered to outsource that to S3.
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>> My recommendation is to analyze what you expect your app's resource and bandwidth usage is going to be, what you expect the growth curve to look like. Then use those numbers to calculate the costs based on EC2 + EBS, Linode/SliceHost, or colocation to determine which is going to fit your needs better. As always TANSTAAFL applies.
;david
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