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Re: TurnKey Installer Components


  • Subject: Re: TurnKey Installer Components
  • From: David Avendasora <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 11:08:26 -0400

I agree with John. I understand that there could -possibly- be issues with permissions in /Applications, but I've never run into them, and I don't recall anyone posting to the list with those types of problems.

I can write to my Eclipse directory just fine in /Applications. Installing plugins has never required me to authenticate or adjust the permissions.

I just don't see the justification for the installer to behave differently than how every other installer (other than Xcode) behaves; present the user with an install location that is defaulted to /Applications, but allows them to choose a different location.  

Dave

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On Oct 7, 2010, at 10:53 AM, John Huss <email@hidden> wrote:

I have put eclipse into /Applications forever and I've never had a single problem with permissions.  I think that is a non-issue.

John

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Kieran Kelleher <email@hidden> wrote:
David,

I disagree with you and Timo, and I agree with Mike and others. ;-)

In summary 2 good reasons for installing in ~/Applications, considering that novice/intermediate users are the ones we are trying to make life easy for.....

1) Writeable Eclipse dir ... keep writeable in user dir. Prevent permission issues that 'stump' newbies into giving up too early.

2) Painless migrations to new machines

-Kieran

On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:54 AM, David Avendasora wrote:

> I'm pretty against ~/Applications. Nothing installs there by default. Why would we make an installer that's targeted at getting new users up and running install in a place other than the normal /Applications? Sure ~/Applications is _better_ but it's not _normal_.
>
> If they're advanced enough to want it in ~/Applications then they can move it.
>
> Dave
>
> On Oct 6, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote:
>
>> I had no idea what I was getting myself into....heh.
>>
>> This is for newbies...generally speaking, so we'll do ~/Applications...maybe offer a choice...dunno yet.
>>
>> -j
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
>>
>>>> I was the same until recently when I switched to a new machine and forgot to copy over eclipse for the umteen'th time. So I moved it to my home directory instead.
>>>>
>>>> If eclipse kept it's plugins and other global config in my home directory I would have no reason to keep it there also.
>>> welcome to one of the longest-standing debates in eclipse history
>>>
>>> ms
>>
>

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