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Re: TurnKey Installer Components
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Re: TurnKey Installer Components


  • Subject: Re: TurnKey Installer Components
  • From: D Tim Cummings <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 08:12:53 +1000

When I was first trying out eclipse, I was on a multi user machine with eclipse in /Applications.  I couldn't work out why sometimes a user could install plugins and sometimes a user couldn't.  As a Mac user I never expected it to be important which user had installed the original application in /Applications.    I thought eclipse was just flakey and so I stayed with XCode which didn't have these problems.  

Later I worked out the problem, installed eclipse in ~/Applications  and haven't had a problem since.

Tim

On 08/10/2010, at 12:53 AM, John Huss wrote:

I have put eclipse into /Applications forever and I've never had a single problem with permissions.  I think that is a non-issue.

John

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Kieran Kelleher <email@hidden> wrote:
David,

I disagree with you and Timo, and I agree with Mike and others. ;-)

In summary 2 good reasons for installing in ~/Applications, considering that novice/intermediate users are the ones we are trying to make life easy for.....

1) Writeable Eclipse dir ... keep writeable in user dir. Prevent permission issues that 'stump' newbies into giving up too early.

2) Painless migrations to new machines

-Kieran

On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:54 AM, David Avendasora wrote:

> I'm pretty against ~/Applications. Nothing installs there by default. Why would we make an installer that's targeted at getting new users up and running install in a place other than the normal /Applications? Sure ~/Applications is _better_ but it's not _normal_.
>
> If they're advanced enough to want it in ~/Applications then they can move it.
>
> Dave
>
> On Oct 6, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote:
>
>> I had no idea what I was getting myself into....heh.
>>
>> This is for newbies...generally speaking, so we'll do ~/Applications...maybe offer a choice...dunno yet.
>>
>> -j
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
>>
>>>> I was the same until recently when I switched to a new machine and forgot to copy over eclipse for the umteen'th time. So I moved it to my home directory instead.
>>>>
>>>> If eclipse kept it's plugins and other global config in my home directory I would have no reason to keep it there also.
>>> welcome to one of the longest-standing debates in eclipse history
>>>
>>> ms
>>
>

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References: 
 >TurnKey Installer Components (From: Jeremy Matthews <email@hidden>)
 >Re: TurnKey Installer Components (From: Pascal Robert <email@hidden>)
 >Re: TurnKey Installer Components (From: John Huss <email@hidden>)
 >Re: TurnKey Installer Components (From: Jeremy Matthews <email@hidden>)
 >Re: TurnKey Installer Components (From: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>)
 >Re: TurnKey Installer Components (From: Q <email@hidden>)
 >Re: TurnKey Installer Components (From: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>)
 >Re: TurnKey Installer Components (From: Jeremy Matthews <email@hidden>)
 >Re: TurnKey Installer Components (From: David Avendasora <email@hidden>)
 >Re: TurnKey Installer Components (From: Kieran Kelleher <email@hidden>)
 >Re: TurnKey Installer Components (From: John Huss <email@hidden>)

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