Re: Golipse.app
Re: Golipse.app
- Subject: Re: Golipse.app
- From: David LeBer <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:48:15 -0400
On 2010-10-10, at 12:17 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote:
> Ah - cool.
>
> There are some things I like about this, and somethings which I would consider changing (IMHO).
>
> Pros
> - "Always" Up-to-date (which is really, mostly, always)...much nicer than have a script on a server continuously generate packages
> - Simplicity (big for me)
>
> Cons
> - Need to be online during installation (some folks download packages and then run, or are not constantly connected)
> - Not a typical installation package (which, as an IT guy, drives me just a little crazy)
> - No continuous feedback (though probably easily solved if using cocoa API's like NSURL), like with a simple progress bar
>
> Questions
> - Is connectivity checked before attempting the download?
> - Is the download file md5 hash checked before download?
> - Are there alternate links in case the primary download URLs fail?
> - Is there a "Cancel" button?
Yes
> - Are we using API's such as NSURL, or running NSTask?
>
> In the past, I create packages (using packagemaker) which contained a new feature (Package References) - so the package would download components remotely during the install process. We found this confused the users and frustrated support staff. I thought it was cool, and basically the future...since we're rapidly heading to a space where everything is connected, always. I suppose we're not quite there yet since every client and business, save a few enterprise groups, that told me to change it back).
>
> I'm really interested in what everyone else thinks here....should we shelve the turnkey in favor of something like this?
> Not wanting to devote time to spend on yet another installation solution...we already have a few now, and I think we need to choose one (maybe two) which will be the future "newbie" installer....need to get rid of the confusion there.
This is just a simple Cocoa wrapper around Mike's shell script. As such it simply derives the appropriate download path and then calls through to an embedded version of the script with NSTask.
It is not designed to be a replacement for anything, and to be completely honest, I have no interest in creating or supporting the next great installer. Mike's script is just really cool, and I wanted to make it easier to use. I have a wickedly fast internet connection right now, so I can have a complete eclipse install up and running in about 3 minutes. Which is awesome BTW.
I might consider enhancing Mike's script so it takes a second optional eclipse archive location, so you can grab from a local archive for the eclipse app itself, but that is probably the extent of my planned enhancements.
That said, I'll probably also push this up to github for those who want to extend it themselves.
>
> Thanks,
> jeremy
>
> On Oct 9, 2010, at 10:55 PM, David LeBer wrote:
>
>> Based on Mike's wolips install script:
>>
>> <http://gist.github.com/610081>
>>
>> I whipped up a thin cocoa wrapper for the command line challenged in our ranks.
>>
>> Demo here:
>>
>> <https://files.me.com/dav1d/wxajka.mov>
>>
>> Let me know if you are interested in testing it.
;david
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