Re: More thoughts to rile MS
Re: More thoughts to rile MS
- Subject: Re: More thoughts to rile MS
- From: Pascal Robert <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 17:13:01 -0400
Having non-ungly demo apps will help too :-) It would be cool to have either a Wonder or WOCommunity CSS file that we can use for demos.
> That's actually a very good point about the "Legacy". If Apple could change that term on their website that would be a help for new people wanting to adopt WO as a platform.
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> Paul
> On Sep 11, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Farrukh Ijaz wrote:
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>>>> All new additions to the community comes from single people or very reduced team among the community, without other even knowing that there is something undertaken. Is it possible to organize a common roadmap and a method to be used by the community to propose new features (part exists with Jira) but also to organize the design (something more structured than the mailing list, private chats our tweets) and the development?
>>> imo, the best thing the community can do to increase the number of people contributing is to contribute. don't start a committee to investigate the creation of a project to contribute to the community. just contribute. do you have frameworks in your app that aren't core IP? put them on github. project wonder doesn't have to be the clearing house for everything open-source in wo. everybody here has built components and tools on top of wo and wonder. put them out.
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>> Removing the word "Legacy" and replacing the screeshots of Apple's WebObjects documentation with WOLips' one can make a difference too :)
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>> One must understand the differences between WO and a non WO platform prior to do any development. Imo, for a beginner's point, starting from a D2W project is even worst as most of the non WO people don't get the idea of Rule System unless they understand EOF and other supporting stuff.
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>> It took me a year to understand WO as for me (J2EE developer) everything was revolving around Servlets (Struts, JSF, and similar framworks) and I missed a lot of important stuff in the beginning just because I thought the Legacy is no more in use so there is no need to read it. After multiple failures to set a proper road map for learning WO, I gave up on Wonder and started from Legacy WebObjects and gone through every inch of the text. Then I understood that switching from non WO to WO is similar to switching religion. It's a rabbit hole to wonder land.
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>> To contribute to WO, Alice must jump.
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>> Farrukh
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