Re: Patched MySQL plugin
Re: Patched MySQL plugin
- Subject: Re: Patched MySQL plugin
- From: Ken Anderson <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:20:33 -0400
Sorry Chuck - I hate them too :)
On Sep 29, 2010, at 11:17 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> You are not making me hate dates any less. :-)
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> On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
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>> An NSTimestamp represents a point in time, as has been stated. Making it behave differently is a bad idea.
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>> I have a set of methods that determine today's date in GMT, and store things that are dates that way. I've never had a problem. I pull out the year, month, and day from a timestamp represented in the local timezone, then create a new timestamp with the same year, month, and day with GMT as the timezone. It's always worked for me...
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>> Ken
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>> On Sep 29, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
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>>> Piling on here. As Louis pointed out, "NSTimestamps are points in time". Messing with that in prototypes is a Bad Idea. You will regret. Have you crossed a DST boundary yet in your testing? And making one database behave differently than others seems at least unwise.
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>>> If you want a calendar date, find a different class. Joda Time and Apache Commons would be a good place to start looking. That would make welcome and very useful contribution to Wonder.
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>>> Chuck and hating Java and Dates
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>>> On Sep 29, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Ramsey Lee Gurley wrote:
>>>> On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Paul Hoadley wrote:
>>>> On 30/09/2010, at 10:21 AM, Louis Demers wrote:
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>>>>>> In my app, when that's the behaviour I want, I zero out the data before writing it to the database so that subsequent checks for equality will return values...
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>>>>> FWIW, I've found that the only clean solution to this problem is to abandon using timestamp types to represent a 1-day-resolution date. In my experience, at least, zeroing out the time part only works until you start using multiple timezones.
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>>>> Apple agrees with you Paul.
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>>>> http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/index.html
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>>>> Calendar dates should not be represented by NSTimestamp. The Date prototype is wrong for using it IMHO.
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>>>> Ramsey
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