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Re: Weird Behaviour...


  • Subject: Re: Weird Behaviour...
  • From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:43:50 -0800

On 2011-12-06, at 2:31 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:

> On 07/12/2011, at 9:23 AM, Philippe Rabier wrote:
>
>> I can feel how uncomfortable you are.
>>
>> What makes me confused is to never see this bug before. It's hard to believe that nobody saw the errors if there are error. But on another side, I (and all the team) worked on many applications  so following the explanation, I don't know why we don't see this issue much more often.
>
> I suspect the more prevalent use of concurrent requests these days has exposed this bug.

It is worth carefully reading over the reproduction steps:

>          * How it fails: A request is handled by WorkerThread0. By the end of the request the eo has been modified but not saved, so the EOObserverCenter remembers
>          * that WorkerThread0's most recent object is that eo. Fifteen more requests are handled by WorkerThreads 1-15 in sequence. One of these requests completes
>          * the modification of the eo and calls saveChanges on the ec. At this point the ec tells the EOObserverCenter to forget about its most recent object, but
>          * it's being set to null in WorkerThread14 or whatever, not WorkerThread0.
>          *
>          * The next request will wrap around to to be handled by WorkerThread0. This request modifies an attribute on the eo, but since the EOObserverCenter still
>          *  thinks WorkerThread0 has already noticed the eo, it ignores the willChange and the ec doesn't grab a snapshot.
>          *
>          * Later in the processing of this request, a different object gets changed, willChange gets called and the ec grabs a snapshot of the second object. Then,
>          * a change gets made to the original eo, willChange gets called, and since the EOObserverCenter was paying attention to the second object, it goes ahead
>          * and notifies the ec about the first object.
>          *
>          * At this point the ec grabs a snapshot of the first object, but it's too late -- the object has already been modified, the ec didn't know about the
>          * previous change, so when saveChanges gets called the previous changes don't get saved to the database. And now your object graph no longer matches the
>          * database, and your app is borked.


Note that it has to be the _same_ eo (same GID) and the same thread and it has to be in a modified but unsaved state.  My guess is that unless your users are doing highly concurrent editing of the same data that this will rarely affect you.  That is why I found it fixing Calven's problem so readily a surprise.



>> And a question regarding the workaround: is there any drawback to call the EOObserver in the dispatchRequest method like suggested?
>
> For multiple active worker threads, a good question...
>
> Lachlan Deck
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