Re: WOWODC 2011 recordings
Re: WOWODC 2011 recordings
- Subject: Re: WOWODC 2011 recordings
- From: Pascal Robert <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 14:13:54 -0400
Le 2011-07-05 à 13:35, Ramsey Gurley a écrit :
> I was there Hugi and I think I missed something (^_^)
>
> I though the discussion was about forking Wonder, which seemed a little odd to me considering we have github nowadays. Anyone can fork it and if you attract a following, so be it.
Yep, the discussion was about forking and/or renaming Wonder. Discussed ideas were:
- Stopping using the "WebObjects" brand and stop saying that Wonder is an complement of WO. Instead we should say that it's Project Wonder that happens to use some obscure libs from Apple
- Having a WOCommunity fork of Wonder so that we can centralize fixes without pushing them to "master" and pulling fixes from master to the WOCommunity fork
- Everyone should just their fork and not sending pull requets into "master"
- Asking people to try fixes found on forks before adding them to master
> If we are discussing a WO fork... I wonder, has anyone ever actually asked Apple if they are willing to open source the WO 5.4.3 release? The Java people made enough noise to get Apple's JDK source released to Oracle for OpenJDK. We aren't as large as they are, but I would argue that we are more important to Apple's operations. Certainly Apple would see a lot of value in having a healthy community of WO devs to pluck.
I think they took everyone they wanted, and don't care much (management) about the rest of us.
> Legal issues aside, it would be much easier to simply get Apple's blessing. They have gobs of money. It isn't like they can't afford to throw us a bone. There should at least be a petition to ask them formally if that hasn't already been done.
>
> Ramsey
>
> On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Paul D Yu wrote:
>
>> Of course.
>>
>> Always "Clean" and in a separate room... ;)
>>
>> Paul
>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote:
>>
>>>>> In short, we think that the first step to move forward is to stop using the WebObjects "brand" on WOCommunity.org and elsewhere, and move to either to the "Project Wonder" name or another name.
>>>>
>>>> Whistler.
>>>
>>> Now I'm *really* bummed not to be there with you guys…
>>>
>>> Out of curiosity, have the words "clean" and "room" been mentioned at all?
>>>
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