Re: Lion and WO
Re: Lion and WO
- Subject: Re: Lion and WO
- From: Tim Worman <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:22:19 -0700
Openbase has been a great product from day one. And integrating it with WO definitely is seamless. I'm a fan. But the developer list has fallen completely silent and it used to be vibrant. The product hasn't had any public updates since 2009 - I don't think it is because there is nothing to do.
I'm in no hurry at all to move my server but I do have to develop against something and that can't be Openbase if I'm running Lion. The tweet indicating that a beta has been "released" is one of only two from the company since Feb 2010.
Tim Worman
UCLA GSE&IS
On Jul 25, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Andy 'Dru' Satori wrote:
> MySQL is really the only platform that fits this description. I have worked with pretty much every RDMS over the last 20 years, and none fit the PHP conformity description other than MySQL. OpenBase has more association with WO and EoF than any other, and for the most part is the only RDBMS that is WO ready out of the box.
>
> PostgreSQL, Oracle, MSSQL, among others have added web functions, but that is barely even on the list of primary tasks. If you find the need to move on, there are several excellent options that aren't MySQL. As a matter of fact, I would strongly recommend anything but MySQL if your needs will ever exceed small volume system. OpenBase may seem quiet, it is because there is not much that it truly needs to fill it's role. The pace of change in the RDBMS space is slowing as we begin to transition towards distributed techs and massively scaling cloud systems.
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> In short, I see no reason to move off open base or front base unless other business considerations dictate the change...
>
> Andy 'Dru' Satori - all typos courtesy of fat finger and an iPad
>
> On Jul 25, 2011, at 8:13 PM, "Beatty, Daniel D CIV NAVAIR, 474300D" <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> Greetings Tim,
>> But I like Frontbase and OpenBase. They are really cool database that have the simplicity of just being a SQL-92 database without any non-sense. This is going to force us into the mindless collective PHP dictated databases.
>>
>> Later,
>> Dan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=email@hidden [mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=email@hidden] On Behalf Of Tim Worman
>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 17:03
>> To: Ramsey Gurley
>> Cc: WebObjects Development
>> Subject: Re: Lion and WO
>>
>> No, I've been using Openbase for a long time. I'm probably going to have to make a move though since there seems to be very little activity around the product.
>>
>> There's a tweet mentioning a beta release for Lion:
>>
>> http://twitter.com/#!/OpenBase/statuses/90781766431936512
>>
>> Tim Worman
>> UCLA GSE&IS
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:
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>>> Postgresql?
>>>
>>> On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Tim Worman wrote:
>>>
>>>> The only problem I had was that I had to use Direct Connect in Lion - probably a config problem somewhere. I'm stuck in Snow Leopard for dev right now since my current database doesn't install in Lion.
>>>>
>>>> Tim Worman
>>>> UCLA GSE&IS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> yes, long ago .. works fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Simon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> what about upgrading a dev machine - anyone braved it yet ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20 July 2011 16:32, Pascal Robert <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>>> Just before people start asking. I installed Lion Server on a Mac Mini Server and the Wonder variants of wotaskd and Monitor works well. Apache WO adaptor compiles correctly too. But Java is not pre-installed, so just start any Java process (a simple call to /usr/bin/java will do) and Finder will ask you if you want to install Java. If you say so, it will download Java 1.6 (from Apple) and install it. _______________________________________________
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