Re: Finding WO people for startups
Re: Finding WO people for startups
- Subject: Re: Finding WO people for startups
- From: Pascal Robert <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:26:26 -0400
Le 2011-09-26 à 13:23, Marius Soutier a écrit :
> But there are also good programmers who don't want to use WebObjects. They are interested, but they don't want to do it all-day long. They prefer stuff like Sinatra, Clojure, and so on, which gives them more freedom of choice on how to solve their problems.
And probably because they can modify the source...
> On 26.09.2011, at 19:19, Paul Yu wrote:
>
>> Great programmers will always write great code.
>>
>> Great programmers will write great code faster with great tools.
>>
>> Bad programmers will always complain that it is not them, but the tools fault.
>>
>> Bad Managers will trump them all...
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>>
>> On Sep 26, 2011, at 1:14 PM, David LeBer wrote:
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>>>
>>> On 2011-09-26, at 1:05 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 26, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Jim Kinsey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The last time I did any interviewing for developers, we ended up with some devs who really did not want to engage with WO on any level, no matter how they came across in the interview. Years of complaining about WO, misusing it in ways which hurt the performance of the system (as the last remaining experienced WO developer I often ended up wading in to sort it out) and then blaming it on WO without having made the least attempt to learn it properly...
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, using WO doesn't make one a great programmer (^_^) Misused, WO is just as awful as any other solution. If anything, WO provides ample opportunity for misuse because there is so much of WO/Wonder to learn.
>>>>
>>>> Some devs just don't want to learn. They prefer to reinvent, poorly.
>>>
>>> Agreed.
>>>
>>> I don't know how many times I've heard the "this is stupid, just tell me how to get a jdbc connection" comment.
>>>
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