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Re: Add Required Web Resource Gets Stuck in IF IE Tag
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Re: Add Required Web Resource Gets Stuck in IF IE Tag


  • Subject: Re: Add Required Web Resource Gets Stuck in IF IE Tag
  • From: Johnny Miller <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:02:04 -1000

Hi Ramsey,

I understand the frustration with IE.  Every time Microsoft's IE 9 "Welcome to the Beautiful Web" commercial runs I want to throw up.  It's almost as good as their "the smartphone beta test is over" commercial.  But unfortunately, I can't dictate to my customers what browser they can use.

My problem is that I'm loading my dependencies at the component level (like the Ajax components) and in this project's case the only universal _javascript_ file is the one for IE.

I agree my implementation is not complete.  I kind of put it out there expecting someone would know of a more Wonderful way of doing it.  An alternative I considered is to first get the script index and then test to see if it is wrapped inside the conditionals.  If it is then put it in front of the if ie index.

What do you think?

Johnny Miller
Kahalawai Media Corp.
www.kahalawai.com



On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:

Scripts validate just fine in the body. Some yahoos have even suggested putting all your scripts at the bottom of the body so the page can load before scripts start sucking the life out of your browser ;-) [ http://developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html ]

Regarding my parsing comment, I just looked at your earlier message and that actually doesn't look too bad. Pardon. I just have a knee jerk reaction whenever anyone wants me to spend more than 0.0004s thinking about IE. IE is not a browser. IE just needs to die. [ see http://twitter.com/html5douche/status/46812686977216512 and http://twitter.com/html5douche/status/57905293903921152 for more details ;-) ]

I didn't test it, but it looks like your implementation needs work. If I put an IE conditional after a script, I'm going to end up with all my stylesheets after the script too. No? It looks like you should get ieIndex and scriptIndex and compare them first.

Ramsey

On Jun 26, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:

Hi Ramsey,

Doesn't it seem like not best practices to have to include a script in the body section of the HTML page?  Isn't that what the head section is for?  Or to have to include an empty script?

Johnny Miller
Kahalawai Media Corp.
www.kahalawai.com



On Jun 26, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:


On Jun 25, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:

Hi,

I've made the two updates (using ERXIEConditionalComment and using the static method from ERXResponseRewriter instead of AjaxUtils - although AjaxUtils just calls ERXResponseRewriter so that's not really a change).

But I'm still having the same issue.  Looking through ERXResponseRewriter there is the static method insertInResponseBeforeTag that is being called and which has a block of code like this:

if (content.toLowerCase().startsWith("<link") || content.toLowerCase().startsWith("<style")) {
int scriptIndex = responseContent.toLowerCase().indexOf("<script");
if (scriptIndex > 0 && scriptIndex < insertIndex) {
insertIndex = scriptIndex;
}
}
response.setContent(ERXStringUtilities.insertString(responseContent, content, insertIndex));
inserted = true;

So, because my first (and only script) in the head is inside the if IE conditional comment I believe that is why the stylesheet is being put in there.

From my original reply:

You could try putting the script in the body or have a script tag outside and above the ie conditional.  I believe the ERXResponseRewriter is going to try to add scripts to the end of head, and stylesheets before the first script... which seems to land it right inside your conditional comment.


Should I log a bug for this?

I think this falls under "Just don't do that." :-) The point of loading the css first is for performance optimization in the browser.  Parsing for IE conditionals would probably negate those performance gains.

Ramsey


Thank you,

Johnny Miller
Kahalawai Media Corp.
www.kahalawai.com



On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Amedeo Mantica wrote:

Remember to put erxresponserewriter after super too. I'm not sure will solve. But try

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On 23/giu/2012, at 21:35, Johnny Miller <email@hidden> wrote:

Hi Amedeo,

Ok.  I'll try that.  

re:  why not use erxieconditionalcomment:  just ignorance, now that I know about it I'll start using it.  I should have realized that someone had created a simple solution for this already.

Thank you,

Johnny

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On Jun 23, 2012, at 7:08 AM, Amedeo Mantica <email@hidden> wrote:

put ERXResponseRewriter after the super of appendToResponse

one more thing;... why u don't use ERXIEConditionalComment ?

Amedeo


On 22/giu/2012, at 02:18, Johnny Miller wrote:

Hi,

In my page wrapper's head section I have something like this:

// HTML
<head>
...
<webobject name = "IFLTIE9Open" /> 
<script src=""http://html5shim.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/html5.js">http://html5shim.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/html5.js"></script>
<webobject name = "IFIEClose" />
...
</head>

// WOD

IFIEClose : WOString {
escapeHTML = false;
value = "<![endif]-->";
}

IFLTIE9Open : WOString {
escapeHTML = false;
value = "<!--[if lt IE 9]>";
}

For some reason a stylesheet that gets added through addStylesheetResourceInHead function is stuffed in-between the IF IE tags.

Can someone please tell me how to fix this?

Thank you,

Johnny Miller
Kahalawai Media Corp.
www.kahalawai.com


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