Re: WOCommunity membership and goals
Re: WOCommunity membership and goals
- Subject: Re: WOCommunity membership and goals
- From: Johnny Miller <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 10:17:28 -1000
I didn't know that about Dojo. I believe Ember is built with JQuery.
It seems like ERRest is the future for WO.
On Feb 7, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Pascal Robert <email@hidden> wrote:
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> Le 2013-02-07 à 15:05, Johnny Miller <email@hidden> a écrit :
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>> Hi,
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>> re: JQuery. I'm pretty bummed I worked on the MooTools framework instead of a JQuery one. Obviously, much more people are interested in JQuery. I keep thinking I'm going to start one but I've sort of made up my mind to limp through 2013 using MooTools and then switch over to something like EmberJS in 2014. If you haven't looked at EmberJS it is a lot like WO in that you define a model and then it handles the database updates (through a REST interface).
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> Dojo has that too, and it doesn't look like that jQuery have that, or at least it's not as "easy" as Dojo or EmberJS.
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> We will have a ERRest lab at WOWODC and I think we should try to connect many client-side JS, iOS and Android frameworks with ERRest to see if we can improve ERRest to support a lot of REST clients.
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>> One thing I would like to see is that we start using the template design pattern for the Ajax framework. A lot of the components don't need to be totally rewritten - you just need to override appendToResponse to format the HTML the right way for the JS framework. But you can't subclass the original component because it calls super in appendToResponse. So if appendToResponse called a method like fooBar and then when you subclass the component all you need to do is override fooBar and you don't have to work about the other methods like invokeAction/handleRequest etc... I basically ended up doing a bunch of copying and pasting but if something got improved in the original there is no guarantee it made it's way into the MooTools version.
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>> re: IDE - I wonder how much it would cost to get JetBrains or a JetBrain's plugin developer to create a WebObjects plugin? Having used their JavaScript editor it's become pretty obvious to me that they make a much better product.
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>> my 2 cents,
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>> Johnny
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>>> - We need a jQuery framework. According to the surveys, members of the community use jQuery almost as much as the Ajax framework from Wonder. In fact, I'm wondering how you use it now, in Direct Actions? Just for effects? If you already have a jQuery framework that you would like to give to the community, we can work it out.
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>>> - Better integration between WO and iOS (and Android). ERSync is a start, and I was thinking maybe we could make a tool that reads a CoreData model, convert it to a EOModel and automatically build REST services for the model.
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>>> - A "Project Wonder Cookbook". That book would contains, two pages max, solutions to common problems and questions about Project Wonder.
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>>> - Getting more people to understand and work on WOLips.
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>>> - A easy-to-install development environment, that would install not only WOLips and Eclipse, but also the core WO frameworks and Project Wonder.
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>>> - A easy to use deployment service. Having helped many people with deployment issues, it looks like deployment is still an issue.
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>>> - Redesign of wocommunity.org.
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>>> - Looking at how we can replace parts of WO with open source parts. The Cayenne training day at WOWODC 2013 is the first step toward that goal.
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>>> How are we going to finance this? We will change how the membership works. We will have the following options:
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>>> - $50 for regular membership. This $50 will be for paying recurrent charges, like the hosting fees for wocommunity.org, and to pay for deposits related to WOWODC. You still get early access to WOWODC recordings.
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>>> - $300 for Bronze Sponsorship. You get membership + your company logo on wocommunity.org for 6 months (on rotation with other sponsors).
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>>> - $750 for Silver Sponsorship. You get membership + your company logo on wocommunity.org for 12 months (on rotation with other sponsors) and your logo on the WOWODC site.
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>>> - $1500 for Gold Sponsorship. You get membership + your company logo on wocommunity.org for 12 months (no rotation) and your logo on the WOWODC site. You also get one WOWODC 2013 ticket.
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>>> For bigger tasks, like the jQuery framework and the Project Wonder Cookbook, we will use Kickstarter or a similar system to raise money to do it, and if we don't raise enough cash, the project simply dies.
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>>> Comments about this?
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