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On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Saul Mora <email@hidden> wrote:

Hello All,

I have arraigned to chat with Jesse Tayler. He seems to have a good background going back to the days of NEXT. Having everyone on a once makes it tough to have a smooth, natural conversation. However, I know i asked you all for your participation, and your response has been terrific. I do want to get as many included as possible. If there is one other person you all feel best represents the community, i'd like to include that person as well.

Thanks,
I'm looking forward to this episode,
Saul

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On Thursday, January 24, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Beatty, Daniel D CIV NAVAIR, 474300D wrote:

Greetings Gang,
I could do it on the basis of a recent Ph.D. Graduate. If were in that case representing TTU as a student/alumni, then I could see that as reasonable. Also, it might work well from point of view of crediting Pascal, Chuck, The Daves, Ramsey, Kieran, Paul, and any number of others.

I do think that there were some fair points made in the Objective Cloud presentation. Like it or not Java is one of the top 5 programming languages in the world. At the time it was selected to bear WebObjects, it was the number one programming language in the world. Unfortunately, that popularity was due to our competition. The big deal for WebObjects has never been about popularity as much as it has been profitability. It may not be the API on Java that is winning the hearts and minds of Linux web servers or Android devices, but it serves both Apple and non-Apple worlds alike. This service has been both profitable and mature with clear evidence with no need for fanfare. But maybe, we should notice that for our own success.

As the podcast noted, Objective Cloud serves a useful niche that most of the cloud world misses. I look forward to seeing what they are capable of doing with their product. Also, I would be happy to contribute to help the cause if I can.

V/R,

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On 1/24/13 12:47 PM, "Johnny Miller" <email@hidden> wrote:

I don't think he would have to say anything more than what is already in his podcast about WebObjects and a Lean Start Up.

On Jan 24, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Kieran Kelleher <email@hidden> wrote:

I would think picking someone who is not under mothership NDA would be better since they can mention the mothership company without worrying if they are violating an NDA. Paul Yu is a good choice if not under NDA.

My 2 cents...

KK

On Jan 24, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Johnny Miller <email@hidden> wrote:

Those are both great picks and I also recommend Paul Yu. Having just listened to the podcast I think they really need to start with a high level overview of what WebObjects was and what it is today. I think that since Paul worked at Apple he can give an interesting historical perspective to it.

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On Jan 24, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Baiss Eric Magnusson <email@hidden> wrote:

Go for it Pascal, or proxy, or Chuck, ...

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On Jan 24, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Saul Mora <email@hidden> wrote:

Hi All,

I produce the NSBrief podcast (http://nsbrief.com <http://nsbrief.com/> ), and posted the episode on Objective Cloud recently. WebObjects has certainly made the rounds on many Cocoa developer podcasts recently as we (cocoa developers in general) have been made known that WebObjects is, in fact, not dead. It is, and never was, my intention to dismiss a technology I know little about. I hope the interview did not come across that way. I tried to ask questions based on my current understanding of WebObjects (as I've learned bits here and there).

That said, I think it'd be great if someone from the community could come on the show (hopefully soon) and explain WebObjects as it is today. I, for one, would love to hear how it works, and if it's a better solution for some people. Java, on the other hand, is always going to be the butt of jokes. Sorry, I can't apologize for that part :)

Please get in touch with me to schedule a time to chat for the podcast! I truly want to give your community the floor to help spread the word of WebObjects to us Cocoa, Mac and iOS developers who think its either dead, or not up to part with something like Ruby on Rails, or ASP.Net <http://asp.net/> , or any other server technology out there. You can reach me for the podcast at email@hidden

Thanks!

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