Re: Can WOWODC folks make this happen some day
Re: Can WOWODC folks make this happen some day
- Subject: Re: Can WOWODC folks make this happen some day
- From: Paul Yu <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:59:19 -0400
Personally, Apple is just starting to hit its stride with xCode and its development environment.
For a long time, Apple/NeXT had to worry about horizontal portability of its entire stack, thus let the development environment languish. Back in the day, Project Builder/Interface Builder was way ahead of its time. VC++ or Borland C++ IDEs were way behind.
Now Apple is bringing its environments forward. Really exciting.
But like you said Ken, availability of integration libraries is a huge value.
We have to remember, Apple left WO to die because Steve did not believe Apple was an enterprise software company. The company's financial results tells the story. It is NOT an enterprise software company. It is the world's largest music retailer. It sells mobile phones, etc., etc. Apple will not devote resources to WO or WO Obj-C if it does not make any material impact on its bottom line, and that is a LARGE number.
Paul
btw. I will not be making the trip this year. My apologies. Have a great event.
On Jun 17, 2013, at 7:08 AM, Ken Anderson <email@hidden> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> No - there aren't - but you knew that already :)
>
> I work in both Xcode/iOS and Eclipse/WO every day. I like both, but I have to say that Apple is just moving more and more towards what Java already had (properties, not requiring all methods in headers, etc). There reason to keep WO in Java is simple - availability of libraries. Whether it be adaptors or 40 JSON libraries, it matters.
>
> Ken
>
> On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Paul Yu <email@hidden> wrote:
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>> Good reply.
>>
>> Just a little historical background.
>>
>> One of the major reasons to switch to Java was the availability of JDBC adaptors. People were not writing Obj-C database adaptors. For the enterprise, without access to Enterprise Databases, we would be dead in the water. Are there lots of people jumping on the Obj-C database adaptors for Core Data on OS X?
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>> Paul
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>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Quinton Dolan <email@hidden> wrote:
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>>>
>>> On 16/06/2013, at 1:09 AM, Baiss Eric Magnusson <email@hidden> wrote:
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>>>> Interesting discussion,
>>>>
>>>> <http://kevinlawler.com/objective-c>
>>>>
>>>> I would like it if WO went back to Objective-C. Eclipse is not happening.
>>>
>>> So you use a different IDE or fix what's broken. Switching WO back to Obj-C because you don't like eclipse is like a painter becoming a brick layer because he doesn't like the brand of paint brush he has been using.
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