Ditto on all the thanks, many fold. I've certainly been a beneficiary of so much of the tireless work that you've all done. I would/could/should give back more, but familial and other duties (den leader, little league manager, my real job, my "hobby") have thus far precluded that. But my scouting career is ending next month, and the little league career only has a few more years so before I know it I'll be putzing around the house looking for some frameworks to improve, I sure hope WO will still be there for me :-)
As far as WO, from what I've looked at (hibernate, grails, spring, cocoon, sencha and probably a couple more I've forgotten), I'm still sold on WO. Yes there's a lot of nice, ajaxy front end stuff coming along, but I would think a lot of it could easily mix with a webobjects solution for the best of both worlds. I certainly use a lot of jquery and other _javascript_ libraries with my project as it is, although all my ajax is done with Wonder (thankfully!!!).
Jeff
On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:33 PM, David LeBer < email@hidden> wrote: I agree wholeheartedly with Chuck.
Thank you Pascal for your perseverance, hard work, and dedication to the WOCommunity.
Regardless of the future of WO and its users, your tireless work has been instrumental in it persisting as long as it has.
Perhaps it is just age speaking, but I am no longer looking for technical battles to fight. I am comfortable doing what I am doing now, but when that ends, I will be happy to use whatever appears to be the most friction free solution to the next problem. That may be WO, but there are lots of alternatives out there, it may not be either.
Don’t get me wrong, WO is still a wonderful and powerful solution to certain problems, and I still love EOF and especially D2W. But in a world of iOS connectivity, rich client side JS frontend driven design, targeted UI, big data, and NoSQL caching layers, I’m not sure if I can honestly present the entire WO stack as much of a slam dunk solution as I have in the past.
Anyway that is a discussion to be had over beers in April.
So, thank you Pascal. I for one, truly appreciate all your effort, and want to wish you the greatest success in whatever you choose to do with your (now) copious free time ;) Your WOWODC drinks and dinners are all on me this year.
D On Mar 6, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Chuck Hill < email@hidden> wrote:
Hi Pascal,
On 2014-03-05, 6:14 PM, "Pascal Robert" wrote:
Well, it's really the last WOWODC that I organize. I need time to fix some minor health issues, and with my 40 hours+ job and the kids, I just don't have the time (not excluding that I have spent more than 20 hours of accounting, and have to write the
annual report before March 20th).
While I am sad to see it go, I think this is the right decision at this time. I hope this makes your life a little better. Have you given any thought on what to do with the WO Community site and resources? Will you still be involved in that?
Two guys from Germany contacted me to say that they can organize something in Germany next year, which makes sense since this is the only area where the number of WO developers doesn't drop every year.
To the people who are coming to WOWODC 2014, I will be glad to see you one last time (except virtually). To the others, I hope to see you somewhere in future.
We will be happy to see you again, too. Thank you for all of your tireless work over the years that made WOWODC actually happen. Without you there would not have been a WOWODC!
Chuck
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