Re: State of the art in browser capability detection
Re: State of the art in browser capability detection
- Subject: Re: State of the art in browser capability detection
- From: Ramsey Gurley <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:10:53 -0700
On Oct 16, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Ray Kiddy <email@hidden> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:20:15 +0200
> "Markus Stoll, junidas GmbH" <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> where possible, I switched to feature detection using
>>
>> http://modernizr.com
>>
>> This depends on a small javascript library running on your page.
>>
>> Markus
>>
>
> Apparently someone already thought this was a good library. I knew it
> was in wonder somewhere. Of course, everything is, somewhere.
>
> $ find wonder -name modernizr\*
> wonder/Examples/Misc/ERWebSocketExample/WebServerResources/js/modernizr-1.7.js
> wonder/Examples/Misc/ERWebSocketExample/WebServerResources/js/modernizr-1.7.min.js
>
> - ray
See also: er.extensions.components.ERXModernizr
>
>
>>> Am 15.10.2014 um 05:30 schrieb Paul Hoa
> dley <email@hidden>:
>>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> On 15 Oct 2014, at 11:25 am, David Holt <email@hidden>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We're beginning to tackle just this problem. One helpful site is
>>>> http://www.whatismybrowser.com and has an API available, but I'm
>>>> not sure that it does anything different than you could do in WO.
>>>> We use it in a support context to tell people whether they are
>>>> running a browser considered out of date and gives instructions
>>>> for how to update, turn on JavaScript etc. I've realized since,
>>>> though that it is quite laptop/desktop centric since a quick
>>>> download will not be the solution to upgrade a browser on mobile
>>>> devices.
>>>
>>> Thanks I'll take a look at that. Google suggests there is at least
>>> one Java-based browser sniffing project in what seems like active
>>> development, which might be useful:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/HaraldWalker/user-agent-utils
>>>
>>> Presumably you could write a more modern implementation of
>>> ERXBrowser with something like that.
>>>
>>>> Another problem we're encountering is the huge variety in
>>>> connection speed differences between "modern" devices. Also, since
>>>> people are now using USB cel sticks or their mobile devices as
>>>> hotspots for laptops, the variety is unpredictable and vast. We
>>>> can no longer make the assumptions about connection speed that we
>>>> could have even a couple of years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for no solution, but maybe our experience can add fuel to
>>>> the fire :)
>>>
>>> Definitely. I really just wanted to know what other people were
>>> doing. I fully understand the philosophical objection to browser
>>> sniffing, and the theoretical superiority of client-side capability
>>> detection and responsive design, but sometimes you have to solve
>>> actual problems in the real world on a limited budget. In this
>>> case, all I want to know is whether the user is probably running a
>>> "mobile" browser at the time of their first request.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul Hoadley
>>> http://logicsquad.net/
>
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