Re: Help on webobjects
Re: Help on webobjects
- Subject: Re: Help on webobjects
- From: jazzsalsa <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:57:27 +0200
Hi,
Until the end of the week you can download a copy here:
https://secure.sqmail.me/owncloud/index.php/s/7JmNggJtVHacRwk
Password is: LearningTheWondersApril
Regards, Bart
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> 1. Re: Help on webobjects (David LeBer)
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> 3. Re: Help on webobjects (HOUNKPONOU Ronald)
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> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 16:47:29 -0400
> From: David LeBer <email@hidden>
> To: Patrick Robinson <email@hidden>
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> It looks like there are DNS issues with that domain:
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>> On Apr 20, 2015, at 4:38 PM, Patrick Robinson <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Markus,
>>
>> I was going to suggest to someone that they look at your sample chapters (re: installation), but the domain name "learningthewonders.com" doesn't seem to be registered. Even worse, the authoritative name servers for the domain (ns1.schumi.ch and ns2.rucotec.ch) don't seem to exist, either! Is there maybe another location for your online chapters?
>>
>> - Patrick
>>
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Markus Ruggiero <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>>> The first chapters of the book are available online for free. They cover the complete installation of the develop environment on Mac OS X and MS Windows. Download as PDF available from http://learningthewonders.com
>>>
>>> Have fun with Wonder/WebObjects
>>>
>>> ---markus---
>>>
>>> PS: Full disclouse: I am the author of said book
>>>
>>>> On 03.04.2015, at 21:28, HOUNKPONOU Ronald <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help Theodore.
>>>> I in West Africa, precisely in Benin.
>>>>
>>>> 2015-04-03 20:19 GMT+01:00 Theodore Petrosky <email@hidden>:
>>>> Here is another recent book. I didn’t see it listed in Ramsey’s reply.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Learning-The-Wonders-introduction-applications/dp/3952423300
>>>>
>>>> This book gives a wonderful (forgive the pun) example of installation of the frameworks.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, where are you? What part of the world?
>>>>
>>>> Ted
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Ramsey Gurley <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’m afraid there’s no substitute for lots of reading :)
>>>>>
>>>>> If I were you, I’d start with David LeBer’s screen casts WebObjects, WOLips and Wonder tutorial, part 1 and 2 found here
>>>>>
>>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Screencasts
>>>>>
>>>>> That will give you a gentle introduction to WebObjects. There’s quite a lot of documentation to read
>>>>>
>>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/JavaDoc+and+other+documentation
>>>>>
>>>>> Unlike other Java solutions, WebObjects is a full stack solution. Whereas something like Apache Tapestry only tries to solve html generation issues or Apache Cayenne only tries to handle database issues or Jetty is just a deployment container, WebObjects is all of that and then some.
>>>>>
>>>>> Everyone goes through this. It’s called “The learning cliff” because it’s much steeper than a typical learning curve. If you don’t familiarize yourself with what is available, then you’ll no doubt end up trying to reinvent something that already exists in WebObjects. That you even got my application template running with no other knowledge of WebObjects is pretty amazing to me. When I started, it took me nearly a month just to get Eclipse/WOLips/WebObjects/Wonder all installed and working properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ll copy the list on this reply. I know several people who follow it who will probably have other good advice/recommended reading for someone just getting started.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 11:30 AM, HOUNKPONOU Ronald <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ramsey,
>>>>>> I hope y're fine.
>>>>>> I'am writing to you to request your help for learning webobjects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a good background in java programming but it's the first time i'am dealing with webobjetcs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So i would like you to help me by indexing the good practice and good docs i should start with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'am a little bit confused because now wonder is the reference but i could not find good quickstart about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw the good job you did on the community but for the beginner that i am it is not so easy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am now trying to custumize a framework with my requirement and its is so difficult for me because there is a lot of concept i dont understand properly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I bougth the book practical webobject but a lot of class are now different with wonder and i confuse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The apps that i wopuld like to start with is a user managenment system, that i will be able to use in all my future projects. That's why i discorver your great work on ponder that i would like to use for the begining before having a deep knowledge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank for all your contributions.
>>>>>
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> From: Theodore Petrosky <email@hidden>
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> Markus,
>
> I bought the book so I have it, but I tried the http://learningthewonders.com and I can not view the page. (Safari can’t find the server)
>
> also, mail addressed to you at kataputt.com bounces with an unknown server error.
>
>
> Ted
>
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> On Apr 5, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Markus Ruggiero <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> The first chapters of the book are available online for free. They cover the complete installation of the develop environment on Mac OS X and MS Windows. Download as PDF available from http://learningthewonders.com
>>
>> Have fun with Wonder/WebObjects
>>
>> ---markus---
>>
>> PS: Full disclouse: I am the author of said book
>>
>>> On 03.04.2015, at 21:28, HOUNKPONOU Ronald <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help Theodore.
>>> I in West Africa, precisely in Benin.
>>>
>>> 2015-04-03 20:19 GMT+01:00 Theodore Petrosky <email@hidden>:
>>> Here is another recent book. I didn’t see it listed in Ramsey’s reply.
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Learning-The-Wonders-introduction-applications/dp/3952423300
>>>
>>> This book gives a wonderful (forgive the pun) example of installation of the frameworks.
>>>
>>> BTW, where are you? What part of the world?
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Ramsey Gurley <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’m afraid there’s no substitute for lots of reading :)
>>>>
>>>> If I were you, I’d start with David LeBer’s screen casts WebObjects, WOLips and Wonder tutorial, part 1 and 2 found here
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Screencasts
>>>>
>>>> That will give you a gentle introduction to WebObjects. There’s quite a lot of documentation to read
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/JavaDoc+and+other+documentation
>>>>
>>>> Unlike other Java solutions, WebObjects is a full stack solution. Whereas something like Apache Tapestry only tries to solve html generation issues or Apache Cayenne only tries to handle database issues or Jetty is just a deployment container, WebObjects is all of that and then some.
>>>>
>>>> Everyone goes through this. It’s called “The learning cliff” because it’s much steeper than a typical learning curve. If you don’t familiarize yourself with what is available, then you’ll no doubt end up trying to reinvent something that already exists in WebObjects. That you even got my application template running with no other knowledge of WebObjects is pretty amazing to me. When I started, it took me nearly a month just to get Eclipse/WOLips/WebObjects/Wonder all installed and working properly.
>>>>
>>>> I’ll copy the list on this reply. I know several people who follow it who will probably have other good advice/recommended reading for someone just getting started.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 11:30 AM, HOUNKPONOU Ronald <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ramsey,
>>>>> I hope y're fine.
>>>>> I'am writing to you to request your help for learning webobjects.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a good background in java programming but it's the first time i'am dealing with webobjetcs.
>>>>>
>>>>> So i would like you to help me by indexing the good practice and good docs i should start with.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'am a little bit confused because now wonder is the reference but i could not find good quickstart about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw the good job you did on the community but for the beginner that i am it is not so easy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am now trying to custumize a framework with my requirement and its is so difficult for me because there is a lot of concept i dont understand properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I bougth the book practical webobject but a lot of class are now different with wonder and i confuse.
>>>>>
>>>>> The apps that i wopuld like to start with is a user managenment system, that i will be able to use in all my future projects. That's why i discorver your great work on ponder that i would like to use for the begining before having a deep knowledge.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank for all your contributions.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> Markus Ruggiero
>> email@hidden
>> Check out the new book about Project Wonder and WebObjects on http://learningthewonders.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 08:49:30 +0100
> From: HOUNKPONOU Ronald <email@hidden>
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> Hi Theodore,
> I am with google chrome and i was able to download the first chapter from
> this link :
> http://learningthewonders.com/downl.html
>
>
> Ronald
>
> 2015-04-20 22:36 GMT+01:00 Theodore Petrosky <email@hidden>:
>
>> Markus,
>>
>> I bought the book so I have it, but I tried the
>> http://learningthewonders.com and I can not view the page. (Safari can’t
>> find the server)
>>
>> also, mail addressed to you at kataputt.com bounces with an unknown
>> server error.
>>
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Markus Ruggiero <email@hidden>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The first chapters of the book are available online for free. They cover
>> the complete installation of the develop environment on Mac OS X and MS
>> Windows. Download as PDF available from http://learningthewonders.com
>>
>> Have fun with Wonder/WebObjects
>>
>> ---markus---
>>
>> PS: Full disclouse: I am the author of said book
>>
>> On 03.04.2015, at 21:28, HOUNKPONOU Ronald <email@hidden>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your help Theodore.
>> I in West Africa, precisely in Benin.
>>
>> 2015-04-03 20:19 GMT+01:00 Theodore Petrosky <email@hidden>:
>>
>>> Here is another recent book. I didn’t see it listed in Ramsey’s reply.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Learning-The-Wonders-introduction-applications/dp/3952423300
>>>
>>> This book gives a wonderful (forgive the pun) example of installation of
>>> the frameworks.
>>>
>>> BTW, where are you? What part of the world?
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Ramsey Gurley <email@hidden>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’m afraid there’s no substitute for lots of reading :)
>>>>
>>>> If I were you, I’d start with David LeBer’s screen casts WebObjects,
>>> WOLips and Wonder tutorial, part 1 and 2 found here
>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Screencasts
>>>>
>>>> That will give you a gentle introduction to WebObjects. There’s quite a
>>> lot of documentation to read
>>>>
>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/JavaDoc+and+other+documentation
>>>> Unlike other Java solutions, WebObjects is a full stack solution.
>>> Whereas something like Apache Tapestry only tries to solve html generation
>>> issues or Apache Cayenne only tries to handle database issues or Jetty is
>>> just a deployment container, WebObjects is all of that and then some.
>>>> Everyone goes through this. It’s called “The learning cliff” because
>>> it’s much steeper than a typical learning curve. If you don’t familiarize
>>> yourself with what is available, then you’ll no doubt end up trying to
>>> reinvent something that already exists in WebObjects. That you even got my
>>> application template running with no other knowledge of WebObjects is
>>> pretty amazing to me. When I started, it took me nearly a month just to get
>>> Eclipse/WOLips/WebObjects/Wonder all installed and working properly.
>>>> I’ll copy the list on this reply. I know several people who follow it
>>> who will probably have other good advice/recommended reading for someone
>>> just getting started.
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 11:30 AM, HOUNKPONOU Ronald <
>>> email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Ramsey,
>>>>> I hope y're fine.
>>>>> I'am writing to you to request your help for learning webobjects.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a good background in java programming but it's the first time
>>> i'am dealing with webobjetcs.
>>>>> So i would like you to help me by indexing the good practice and good
>>> docs i should start with.
>>>>> I'am a little bit confused because now wonder is the reference but i
>>> could not find good quickstart about it.
>>>>> I saw the good job you did on the community but for the beginner that
>>> i am it is not so easy.
>>>>> I am now trying to custumize a framework with my requirement and its
>>> is so difficult for me because there is a lot of concept i dont understand
>>> properly.
>>>>> I bougth the book practical webobject but a lot of class are now
>>> different with wonder and i confuse.
>>>>> The apps that i wopuld like to start with is a user managenment
>>> system, that i will be able to use in all my future projects. That's why i
>>> discorver your great work on ponder that i would like to use for the
>>> begining before having a deep knowledge.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank for all your contributions.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Markus Ruggiero
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>> Check out the new book about Project Wonder and WebObjects on
>> http://learningthewonders.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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