Re: Abandonware???
Re: Abandonware???
- Subject: Re: Abandonware???
- From: Ray Kiddy <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 14:33:42 -0700
On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 15:54:37 -0400
David LeBer <email@hidden> wrote:
> WebObjects - the set of frameworks used by Apple == Not Abandonware
> WebObjects - the set of frameworks used/enhanced/patched by the
> community through Wonder == Not Abandonware
> WebObjects - the set of frameworks supplied by Apple as a supported
> product == Abandonware
>
> My opinion.
>
> D
On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 12:23:25 -0300
Henrique Prange <email@hidden> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> "Although such software is usually still under copyright, the owner
> may not be tracking or enforcing copyright violations."
>
> Apple doesn’t need to release the copyright to turn WebObjects into
> Abandonware. I see no problem if we declare WebObjects as Abandonware
> and Apple doesn’t enforce its copyright. The real question is: what
> benefits do we have if WebObjects becomes Abandonware?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Henrique
There is a benefit. For one thing, the TreasureBoat project could have
gone forward. But there seems to be an understandable reluctance to
declare that WebObjects (as defined in LeBer-III), is abandonware to
the extent that the Oracle v Google decision on Java APIs
(https://www.eff.org/cases/oracle-v-google) would not apply to it.
When we (by some definition of "we", I have no idea what) agree that
that case does not apply because it is abandonware, TB could start
again in a heart-beat.
There seem to be too many unknowns, now, to justify the work.
- ray
>
> > On 2 de out de 2015, at 20:43, Paul Yu <email@hidden> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Oct 2, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Paul Yu <email@hidden
> >> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Upon further reading of the wiki page.
> >>
> >> Due to copyright enforcement duration, it does us no good for us
> >> to declare WebObjects and its frameworks abandoned by Apple.
> >> Since Apple has not and will probably not release it copyright
> >> ownership on the software.
> >>
> >>>
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