On Jul 13, 2016, at 10:35 AM, Chuck Hill < email@hidden> wrote:
Here is my brief take on what defines the community. Many of us got started with WO before anyone came along and told us that we should not want a coherent, consistent, end-to-end stack that mostly “just worked”.
... We know how good things can be and we are not willing to settle for less. That is what defines us. That is why we are still here. While some of us, like Andrus, have gone away and re-created part of the goodness and added some new goodness, we are still all influenced by what we witnessed and worked with.
Chuck
Just to grab some continuity, that's what held the Simula community (ASU) together for a long time, (btw, also voted most common characteristic was love of fine beer) <ahem>.
I actually can imagine that SimDBM, a multi-stack BTree to object space package, as the predecessor to EOModeler.
I gave too much away in attempting to use Java, even before WO, to independently embrace it, and it was M$ that dropping Java that precipitated this gradual decline.
Listening in with best wishes, Baiss Dear members of the WO Community, At WOWODC 2016, we had many discussions about the future of the community. We also saw many tools to get forward. But before moving forward on the technical side, many attendees made a point: we should find out what unites us. Is this only because of WebObjects, or because we use WebObjects and Wonder for rapid development? Or because most of you are small teams and are doing full-stack development? So, before we decide to replace, or not, the tool stack, we want to know what defines the community and we want for feedback about this. As for the current operations, the WOCommunity Association still stay up at least until January 24th 2017. We have enough money to pay for the hosting and the store for the remaining of the year. We can also save some money by moving some of the podcasts to mirrors and by running Jenkins elsewhere, or maybe everything. If you want to host some of the podcasts (the older ones) or host Jenkins, please notify me. You can listen to the talk here: Also, Samuel Pelletier created a Slack channel to discuss the state of things, send an email to him or me if you wish to join the channel. _______________________________________________
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