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Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple


  • Subject: Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
  • From: "Joel M. Benisch" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 12:40:36 -0600

Which would seem to indicate that work is continuing on WO for Apple's internal use ????

Am I stating the obvious???

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On May 4, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Looks like most WO devs in North America are working directly or indirectly for Apple. That would explain why we have more Europeans coming to WOWODC than people near.


De : webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=email@hidden <webobjects-dev-bounces+probert=email@hidden> de la part de Ricardo Parada <email@hidden>
Envoyé : 4 mai 2016 13:53:31
À : Chuck Hill
Cc : WebObjects-Dev
Objet : Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
 

I see people disappear from this list every time they are hired by Apple. I just noticed Kieran has not been active in the list and his linked in profile says he is now at Apple. 

:-)

On May 4, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Chuck Hill <email@hidden> wrote:

Gee…. I wonder if he will still associate with us now!

From: Ramsey Gurley <email@hidden>
Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 10:24 AM
To: David LeBer <email@hidden>
Cc: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>, WebObjects-Dev <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple

Hugi, you’re famous now :D

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-officially-discontinues-webobjects-2016-5


On May 3, 2016, at 4:20 PM, David LeBer <email@hidden> wrote:

Yeah, I was surprised by that too.

Apple rarely gives definitive statements on anything, let alone a long dead and forgotten product ;)

-- 
D

On May 3, 2016 at 7:11:05 PM, Chuck Hill (email@hidden) wrote:

I am surprised that Hugi got a clear statement from Apple. That must have taken some persistence! “Frank, this damn Hugi guy keeps bugging us every year, get rid of him!”

:-)





On 2016-05-03, 4:04 PM, "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=email@hidden on behalf of Pascal Robert" <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=email@hidden on behalf of email@hidden> wrote:

>
>> Le 3 mai 2016 à 12:47, Flavio Donadio <email@hidden> a écrit :
>> 
>> Hugi,
>> 
>> 
>> That’s bad news, but it’s exactly what we expected, in a certain way. The silence and lack of updates for such a long time were telling us the truth, although we wouldn’t accept it — there had to be a final word, straight from the horse’s mouth! I guess we have it now.
>> 
>> So, they say WO is dead. We say “long live, WO!"
>> 
>> We should move on to the next step: nagging Apple to release WO/EOF as open source software! ;-)
>
>This topic comes around every year. Multiple people asked this to Apple over the last 7 years. It won’t happen. Final.
>
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Flavio
>> 
>> 
>>> On 03/05/2016, at 12:19, Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> We probably all know that WO's been practically dead to Apple for a long time, but unfortunately Apple has refused to state so officially (at least I don't recall there being an official statement).
>>> 
>>> Anyhow… In the past years I've regularly sent letters to Tim Cook, asking about the state of WO (being the naggy guy I am) and recently, I was contacted by Apple executive relations regarding my questions. The guy I spoke to called a couple of times, at first, he had absolutely no idea what WO was but the second time he called, he had obtained information and had a clear statement: "WebObjects is a discontinued product and will never be upgraded".
>>> 
>>> I know this information is extremely redundant, but I still wanted to tell you since it was something of a relief. Felt a little like the police calling you to let you know that they'd found the remains of your friend that's been missing for 15 years and finally declared him dead.
>>> 
>>> But of course, this changes nothing; WO is still better than ever. We just need to continue to distance Wonder from WO and move forward.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> - hugi
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 >Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple (From: David LeBer <email@hidden>)
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 >Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple (From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>)
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