Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
- Subject: Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
- From: Ramsey Gurley <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 18:08:05 -0700
Now he’s on CNN
http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/04/technology/steve-jobs-apple-webobjects/index.html
This is more news about WO than before WO was kill :D
On May 4, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Chuck Hill <email@hidden> wrote:
> Eating psychoactive mushrooms and running around raping and pillaging sounds like way more fun than accounting. At least for my experiences of accounting.
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> On 2016-05-04, 1:48 AM, "Hugi Thordarson" <email@hidden> wrote:
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>> Probably no one as surprised as myself. I probably sent dozens of e-mails to sjobs on the subject trough the years without receiving a reply. But to Tim’s credit, it only took four emails before I was contacted. He’s a lot less stubborn, obviously.
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>> And we Viking are a misunderstood, peaceful people. Apart from sending angry emails to corporate executives, these days we mostly conduct our coastal raids through Panamian law firms using money stored in offshore companies. It’s so much easier than eating psychoactive mushrooms and running around raping and pillaging.
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>> - hugi
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>>> On 3. maí 2016, at 23:22, Chuck Hill <email@hidden> wrote:
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>>> The Viking Tradition lives on!
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>>> From: David LeBer <email@hidden>
>>> Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 4:20 PM
>>> To: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
>>> Cc: WebObjects-Dev <email@hidden>
>>> Subject: Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
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>>> Yeah, I was surprised by that too.
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>>> Apple rarely gives definitive statements on anything, let alone a long dead and forgotten product ;)
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>>> On May 3, 2016 at 7:11:05 PM, Chuck Hill (email@hidden) wrote:
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>>>> I am surprised that Hugi got a clear statement from Apple. That must have taken some persistence! “Frank, this damn Hugi guy keeps bugging us every year, get rid of him!”
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>>>> :-)
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>>>> On 2016-05-03, 4:04 PM, "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=email@hidden on behalf of Pascal Robert" <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=email@hidden on behalf of email@hidden> wrote:
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>>>>>> Le 3 mai 2016 à 12:47, Flavio Donadio <email@hidden> a écrit :
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>>>>>> Hugi,
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>>>>>> That’s bad news, but it’s exactly what we expected, in a certain way. The silence and lack of updates for such a long time were telling us the truth, although we wouldn’t accept it — there had to be a final word, straight from the horse’s mouth! I guess we have it now.
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>>>>>> So, they say WO is dead. We say “long live, WO!"
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>>>>>> We should move on to the next step: nagging Apple to release WO/EOF as open source software! ;-)
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>>>>> This topic comes around every year. Multiple people asked this to Apple over the last 7 years. It won’t happen. Final.
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>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Flavio
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>>>>>>> On 03/05/2016, at 12:19, Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden> wrote:
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>>>>>>> Hi all.
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>>>>>>> We probably all know that WO's been practically dead to Apple for a long time, but unfortunately Apple has refused to state so officially (at least I don't recall there being an official statement).
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>>>>>>> Anyhow… In the past years I've regularly sent letters to Tim Cook, asking about the state of WO (being the naggy guy I am) and recently, I was contacted by Apple executive relations regarding my questions. The guy I spoke to called a couple of times, at first, he had absolutely no idea what WO was but the second time he called, he had obtained information and had a clear statement: "WebObjects is a discontinued product and will never be upgraded".
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>>>>>>> I know this information is extremely redundant, but I still wanted to tell you since it was something of a relief. Felt a little like the police calling you to let you know that they'd found the remains of your friend that's been missing for 15 years and finally declared him dead.
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>>>>>>> But of course, this changes nothing; WO is still better than ever. We just need to continue to distance Wonder from WO and move forward.
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>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> - hugi
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