Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap
Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap
- Subject: Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap
- From: Maik Musall <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 11:16:24 +0100
I still think we should put stuff there, lacking an alternative. But we should
also work towards cleaning it up. Obsolete information should be simply
removed, and pages need to be restructured.
> Am 23.02.2019 um 00:37 schrieb Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden>:
>
> I do, but I'm not quite sure the Wiki is where I'd like to post stuff. It's a
> very confusing place.
>
>
>> On 22 Feb 2019, at 16:57, Ted Petrosky <email@hidden
>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>
>> And do you get an ‘edit’ button on the wiki page when you log in?
>>
>>
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>> From: Webobjects-dev
>> <webobjects-dev-bounces+tpetrosky=email@hidden
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>> on behalf of Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden <mailto:email@hidden>>
>> Date: Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:34 PM
>> To: Maik Musall <email@hidden <mailto:email@hidden>>
>> Cc: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" <email@hidden
>> <mailto:email@hidden>>
>> Subject: Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap
>>
>> My comment was directed at you Ant guys with your property files—didn't
>> really intend for it to backfire onto myself :p.
>>
>> But I know there's a severe lack of documentation for using Maven with WO,
>> and I know I should have contributed a while ago. Incidentally I now finally
>> have time to write some docs, so it's time to own up.
>>
>> - hugi
>>
>>
>>> On 21 Feb 2019, at 21:33, Maik Musall <email@hidden
>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Hugi,
>>>
>>> glad you're volunteering to add that variant to the wiki page :)
>>>
>>> Maik
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 21.02.2019 um 18:13 schrieb Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden
>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>>:
>>>>
>>>> Ya'll need Maven.
>>>>
>>>> - hugi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 21 Feb 2019, at 17:09, Tim Worman <email@hidden
>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would think, at this point, that the number of devs swapping between
>>>>> multiple versions of WO would be close to zero. Anyone supporting a
>>>>> legacy codebase will probably know what to do. Perhaps there could simply
>>>>> be a link to a separate article - “How to maintain multiple versions of
>>>>> WO."
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Theodore Petrosky <email@hidden
>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is that (If I remember correctly) when you invoke ant on the
>>>>>> CLI, ant uses wolips.properties. it will ignore anything else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so if you have a wolips.543.properties and Eclipse is set up to use it,
>>>>>> then Eclipse is Okay, but the CLI will not use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I think it is better to NOT use the wolips.543.properties so that
>>>>>> installing and or compiling from Eclipse will agree with using the CLI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One can do whatever pleases themselves, but I think erring on the side
>>>>>> of consistency is more correct (betterer???)! And it is not really
>>>>>> erring, it is making an informed decision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you override ant’s properties?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ant -Dproperties=wolips.543.properties
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I agree with Markus, we should tone down the usage of .543. (multiple
>>>>>> versions) or at the least call it not recommended and the above is why.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Maik Musall <email@hidden
>>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Ted,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I went through the install process on a clean machine, created new
>>>>>>> screenshots and updated the Project Wonder Installation page with that.
>>>>>>> But I kept the wolips.543.properties scheme that had been described
>>>>>>> there, even though the comments at the bottom recommend not doing that
>>>>>>> and ignore the versioning. I also have the impression that skipping the
>>>>>>> version distinction would be better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can update that again, but I'd like a discussion about that detail
>>>>>>> here before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 21.02.2019 um 05:06 schrieb Theodore Petrosky <email@hidden
>>>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I can edit some pages but not all :(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can edit in here for instance:
>>>>>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Building+a+WebObjects+Project
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Building+a+WebObjects+Project>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but I cannot edit here:
>>>>>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation
>>>>>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have always been very confused in the wiki. I know that Maik Musall
>>>>>>>> can edit here because it says at the top of the page:
>>>>>>>> last modified by Maik Musall
>>>>>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/~mmusall> on Dec 01, 2017
>>>>>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/pages/diffpagesbyversion.action?pageId=1835055&selectedPageVersions=60&selectedPageVersions=61>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would be happy to help here if we can figure out how to get me edit
>>>>>>>> privs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:47 PM, Michael Sharp <email@hidden
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A wiki update would be good. I’ve updated README.md in the 4.10 repo
>>>>>>>>> to reference the appropriate version of Eclipse and WOLips update
>>>>>>>>> site URL.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Sharpy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Feb 2019, at 7:03 pm, Theodore Petrosky <email@hidden
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ???
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> should the wiki be updated to reflect this URL?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hate the idea of having to examine the mail archives to find this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Henrique Prange <email@hidden
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just to let you know that I've merged Michael's pull request into
>>>>>>>>>>> the eclipse_4_10 branch. Maik did set up a new Jenkins job to build
>>>>>>>>>>> from changes on that branch. You can test it by pointing your
>>>>>>>>>>> WOLips update site to:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips410/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips410/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It looks good on my machine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> HP
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 7:52 PM, Michael Sharp <email@hidden
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Henrique,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, PR here https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/pull/139
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/pull/139>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Sharpy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2019, at 3:11 am, Henrique Prange <email@hidden
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've pushed a new branch eclipse_4_10 to track changes and fixes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Eclipse 2018-12 momentarily. Would you mind to create a pull
>>>>>>>>>>>>> request?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2019, at 10:00 PM, Michael Sharp <email@hidden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Samuel,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m happy to create a pull request but I’m not sure there’s an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate destination branch at wocommunity/wolips yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’d like to see jenkins.wocommunity building this too. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jenkins building it here with both rebel and jprofiler support,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> although I’m unable to test those particular features.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Sharpy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ps: my last message was sent from an email address that is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registered for the list, this one should make it. It’s been a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15 Feb 2019, at 1:50 am, Samuel Pelletier <email@hidden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I managed to build your branch with the readme content (There
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are too many build instruction out there...) and after fixing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wo.root in the wobuild.property file that was not up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date. I built without jprofiler and without jrebel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AddKey works again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be a good thing to create the official repo with these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and start the automatic builds. What is the next step to put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that in place ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samuel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 13 févr. 2019 à 18:29, Michael Sharp <email@hidden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:email@hidden>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m building a WOLips4.10 variation locally from my branch at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/getsharp/wolips/tree/eclipse_4_10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/getsharp/wolips/tree/eclipse_4_10>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The changes to their internal JDT APIs (such as StubUtility)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a pretty good incentive to leave them alone all together.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Add Key and a few other broken features are fixed for me with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this build.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharpy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2019, at 7:37 am, Samuel Pelletier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <email@hidden <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I experience Eclipse 2018-12 with WOLips and DCEVM and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest WOLips and it works quite well to date.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use the openjdk11 with DCEVM and Hotswap integrated found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at this location, it is important to use the latest (+8 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this time) version if you use Groovy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/TravaOpenJDK/trava-jdk-11-dcevm/releases
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/TravaOpenJDK/trava-jdk-11-dcevm/releases>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This download contains the entire JVM directory, to install
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cd /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo tar zxf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/yourDownloadLocation/java11-openjdk-dcevm-osx.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then go to Eclipse preferences to add the new JVM.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This JVM is for dev only, it always starts with DCEVM and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hotswap. DCEVM is a free hot code replacement like JRebel and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotSwap contains plugins to help the engine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apps compile and run faster (real or placebo effet) than my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only downside to date is the addKey in the WO editor that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no longer works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It fail with java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org/eclipse/jdt/internal/corext/codemanipulation/StubUtility.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the addKey problem in WOLips, the team moved an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal classe used by this function in the AddKeyInfo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> class. Here is the import that need to change in this file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -import
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jdt.internal.corext.codemanipulation.StubUtility;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +import
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jdt.internal.core.manipulation.StubUtility;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My problem now is I do not have a working WOLips build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment to test this. I tried to follow the Wiki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction but I only get fail build du to missing something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone has a working WOLips development setup, please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update it with Eclipse 2018-12 and apply my patch to build a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new WOLips. This will require a new WOLips version for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse 4.10+ since this code will no longer works with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samuel
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| References: | |
| | >WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Samuel Pelletier <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Samuel Pelletier <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Michael Sharp <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Henrique Prange <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Michael Sharp <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Henrique Prange <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Theodore Petrosky <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Michael Sharp <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Theodore Petrosky <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Maik Musall <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Theodore Petrosky <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Tim Worman <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Maik Musall <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Ted Petrosky <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: WOLips, Eclipse 2018-12 with openjdk11 and dcevm-hotswap (From: Hugi Thordarson <email@hidden>) |